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Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by weird-eye-issue »

krembo wrote: post #171
dfabulich wrote: post #112

For folks not following the drama: Anthropic's $200/month subscription for Claude Code is much cheaper than Anthropic's pay-as-you-go API. In a month of Claude Code, it's easy to use so many LLM tokens that it would have cost you more than $1,000 if you'd paid via the API. Why is Anthropic offering such favorable pricing to subscribers? I dunno. But they really want you to use the Claude Code™ CLI with that subscript…

I wonder how are these pricings compared to running Claude over bedrock

The price is the same whether you run it on Bedrock or Anthropic....

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by slekker »

dboon wrote: post #15

This is an unusual L for Anthropic. The unfortunate truth is that the engineering in opencode is so far ahead of Claude Code. Obviously, CC is a great tool, but that's more about the magic of the model than the engineering of the CLI. The opencode team[^1][^2] built an entire custom TUI backend that supports a good subset of HTML/CSS and the TypeScript ecosystem (i.e. not tied to Opencode, a generic TUI renderer). Th…

How much do you use AI in your day? Are you a heavy user? Asking because your comment has a lot of "LLM mannerism"

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by cocoto »

luckilydiscrete wrote: post #161
isodev wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also don’t use AI for coding. I tried, I explored, I learned how it works. At the end, “maybe-sometimes works” and “sends a copy of all your code to some server in the US” are just incompatible with the kind of software I create. Regarding the post, I think it’s telling that Anthropic is trying to force people into using their per-usage billing more than the subscription. My take is that the subscription offers a l…

I'll say "maybe-sometimes works" is a misunderstanding. It feels like that initially, but that's no different from any new tool you adopt. A jackhammer also "maybe-sometimes works" as a hammer replacement.

Not true, most tools are deterministic. For instance my programming language LSP just works 100% of the time with no failure. It doesn’t hallucinate any types, methods or variables.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by alexeiz »

dboon wrote: post #15

This is an unusual L for Anthropic. The unfortunate truth is that the engineering in opencode is so far ahead of Claude Code. Obviously, CC is a great tool, but that's more about the magic of the model than the engineering of the CLI. The opencode team[^1][^2] built an entire custom TUI backend that supports a good subset of HTML/CSS and the TypeScript ecosystem (i.e. not tied to Opencode, a generic TUI renderer). Th…

> The unfortunate truth is that the engineering in opencode is so far ahead of Claude Code.

If only Claude Code developers had access to a powerful LLM that would allow them to close the engineering gap. Oh, wait...

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by Aurornis »

baby wrote: post #143
dfabulich wrote: post #112

For folks not following the drama: Anthropic's $200/month subscription for Claude Code is much cheaper than Anthropic's pay-as-you-go API. In a month of Claude Code, it's easy to use so many LLM tokens that it would have cost you more than $1,000 if you'd paid via the API. Why is Anthropic offering such favorable pricing to subscribers? I dunno. But they really want you to use the Claude Code™ CLI with that subscript…

Aren't you happy that you can use claude code unlimited for only 200/month? I don't really get your point tbh

I’d bet almost everyone who opts to buy the $200 plan is happy with the deal they’re getting relative to API pricing.

I think some people get triggered by the inconsistency in pricing or the idea of having a fixed cost for somewhat vague usage limits.

In practice it’s a great deal for anyone using the model at that level.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by anhner »

BoiledCabbage wrote: post #62
dboon wrote: post #15

This is an unusual L for Anthropic. The unfortunate truth is that the engineering in opencode is so far ahead of Claude Code. Obviously, CC is a great tool, but that's more about the magic of the model than the engineering of the CLI. The opencode team[^1][^2] built an entire custom TUI backend that supports a good subset of HTML/CSS and the TypeScript ecosystem (i.e. not tied to Opencode, a generic TUI renderer). Th…

> Anyway, this is embarrassing for Anthropic. Why? A few times in this thread I hear people saying "they shouldn't have done this" or something similar but not given any reason why. Listing features you like of another product isn't a reason they shouldn't have done it. It's absolutely not embarrassing, and if anything it's embarrassing they didn't catch and do it sooner.

"Leave the multibillion dollar company alone!"

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by wiether »

gbear605 wrote: post #181
lemming wrote: post #58

This will piss a lot of people off, and seems like a strange move. I get that this was always a hack and against the ToS. But I've been paying Anthropic money every month to do exactly what I would have done with Claude Code, but in another harness that I like better. All they've achieved here is that I am no longer giving them money. Their per-token pricing is really expensive compared to OpenAI, and I like the resu…

Presumably Claude Code is a loss leader to try to lock you into their ecosystem or at least get you to exclusive associate “AI” with “Claude”. So if it’s not achieving those goals, they’d prefer if you use OpenAI instead.

That's my understanding and that's what I see happening at some places.

People got a CC sub, invest on the whole tooling around CC (skills and whatnot) and once they're a few weeks/months in, they'll need a lot of convincing to even try something else.

And given how often CC itself changes and they need to keep up with it, that's even worse. It's not just not wanting to get out of your confort zone, it's just trying to keep up with your current tools. Now if you also have to try a new tool every other day, the 10x productivity improvements claimed won't be enough to cover the lack of actual working hours you'll be left with in a week.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by rocqua »

BoiledCabbage wrote: post #113
dboon wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is embarrassing to restrict an open source tool that is (IMO) a strictly and very superior piece of software from using your model. It is not immoral, like I said, because it's clearly against the ToC; but it's not like OC is stealing anything from Anthropic by existing. It's the same subscription, same usage. Obviously, I have no idea what's going on internally. But it appears to be an issue of vanity rather than…

> It is embarrassing to restrict an open source tool that is (IMO) a strictly and very superior piece of software from using your model. > Shutting down the other tool, if that's what's in fact happening, is what is embarrassing. To rephrase it different as I feel my question didn't land. It's clear to me that you think it's embarrassing. And it's clear what you think is embarrassing. I'm trying to understand why you…

If your value proposition is: do X, and then you have to take action against an open source competitor for doing X better, that shows that you were beaten at the thing you tried very hard at, by people with way fewer resources.

I can see why you would call that embarrassing.

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