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Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Post by mothballed »

ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #192
noncoml wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This shows how flawed the idea is that individual gun ownership protects people from a rogue government. Acting alone with a firearm does not stop tyranny. It only leads to prison or worse. Real resistance to authoritarianism has never come from isolated individuals using violence. It requires organized collective action where people stand together and refuse to comply. History shows that meaningful resistance often…

> History shows that meaningful resistance often begins with simple nonviolent acts like refusing unjust rules or asserting basic dignity rather than a lone person reaching for a gun. I'm having trouble coming up with many recent examples where non-state resistance to authoritarianism succeeded in defeating it, regardless of method. Myanmar? Hong Kong? Xinjiang? Iran? North Korea?

Non-state actor YPG fought off ISIS authoritarians and held off Assad authoritarian in Kurdish Syria.

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Post by goatlover »

GaryBluto wrote: post #34
phillipcarter wrote: post #3

The most maximally vindictive candidates are earning my votes in the coming election.

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The two sides aren't remotely the same. One side has become authoritarian and shifted far to the right. The current administration is seeking to undermine liberal democracy to give the executive all the meaningful power to enact Christian nationalism. It's also a cult of personality where the president can do no wrong, and anyone who defies him gets sent death threats.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Post by JKCalhoun »

chasd00 wrote: post #127
JKCalhoun wrote: post #97

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Video analysis is depressing: https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010631041/minneapolis...

I wonder what conclusion the FBI's investigation will come to because it sure doesn't look good for ICE to me. Best case, those two agents get sentenced to life for murder but the damage is done and a life taken. If the officer fired two shots and she died at the scene then it seems reasonable to me the bullets didn't go through the windshield and, instead, went through her rolled down window while she was turning aw…

The windshield shows a single bullet entry.

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Post by nickthegreek »

icameron wrote: post #20

When I first heard the advice to ditch your phone when you go a protest, I thought maybe that's a little extreme. But it's a real threat. We already knew post Snowden there is an extensive big brother apparatus. We saw post 911 that all rights can be taken away in the name of counter-terrorism. Now with a government that's operating outside the law and labeling peaceful protesters as terrorists, I don't think we can…

whenever this topic comes up, I like to point people to EFF's Rayhunter.

https://github.com/EFForg/rayhunter

> Rayhunter is a project for detecting IMSI catchers, also known as cell-site simulators or stingrays. It was first designed to run on a cheap mobile hotspot called the Orbic RC400L, but thanks to community efforts, it can support some other devices as well.

And

https://bitchat.free/

> bitchat is a decentralized peer-to-peer messaging application that operates over bluetooth mesh networks. no internet required, no servers, no phone numbers.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Post by iugtmkbdfil834 »

8note wrote: post #189
iugtmkbdfil834 wrote: post #101

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You do have a point. My point is that we are constantly a part of informational warfare and it is getting old. I would love nothing more than people to look at it all with a cold eye and say something akin to: oh, I recognize this pattern. Instead, I attempts of various power centers to frame it in a way beneficial to them. Some of us are rather tired of this.

its not some pattern of abuse by shady actors manipulating opinions youre noticing, its voting algorithm and attention economy itself. new ideas are constantly being published, and popular ones gain momentum by being shown to more people. as the idea gets saturated, the popularity gets overshadowed by the time based downranking. if the idea is still popular though, in this case that ice murdered some woman as part of…

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Post by saltcured »

tavavex wrote: post #147
plagiarist wrote: post #80

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Why would they be burning anything? They find you with the exploit and then use parallel construction to make arrests. The location toggle does nothing to prevent your carrier (and by extension your government) from determining location from cell towers. If you trust there is no remote exploit, the minimum would at least include turning off cellular signals.

But those comments weren't just about location - everyone knows that triangulation based on cell towers is a viable option as long as you're connected to some. But they also claimed that airplane mode, which is supposed to disable most communications modules in your phone, including the cellular modem, would be ineffective at doing that. To me that seems to reach into "the US government can remotely turn your phone o…

If the threat is observation and tracking, you really want to turn off all radios, right? Cellular, wifi, bluetooth, NFC. Otherwise you are hoping some anonymization/obfuscation is preventing your signal from being correlated to those captured at other locations and times.

If the threat is self-incrimination after the fact, you also don't want to carry any device that is determining and persisting its own location info. Don't track your protest as a fitness activity on your GPS sports watch...

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Post by 8note »

GaryBluto wrote: post #34
phillipcarter wrote: post #3

The most maximally vindictive candidates are earning my votes in the coming election.

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we just saw the biden admin not do that, and the polarization only grew. They very specifically slow walked their investigation into trump's treason, so they wouldnt have to Nuremberg him.

trump mind you, is nuremburging non-voters. they dont exactly have side beyond trying to work and eat

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Post by iugtmkbdfil834 »

footy wrote: post #191
iugtmkbdfil834 wrote: post #150

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Are they now? If so, where is the carefully nuance bio of Good? Why do I get choreographed and weirdly aligned responses from various online profiles ( my 'observer' note )? The answer is obvious: there are points to be made by strategically aligning her verious 'more than one thing' portions of persona to match a narrative, which, but I repeat myself, is very, very tiring.

> where is the carefully nuance bio of Good? I don't know, I don't think it's normally assumed that when someone dies (or more to the point is murdered) in a very public way we all immediately deserve to know every thing about them. I don't know what you're talking about really. What I mean to say is the rest of this comment is incoherent to me.

BS. And I do not say this lightly. When it fits a given narrative, media has no issue or qualms in publishing anything and everything related to a given person they find online. It is only when they selectively release it over days that you just know how well the person does not fit the script, as it were.

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Post by 8note »

drnick1 wrote: post #47
nemomarx wrote: post #5

Any tips on how to avoid this? I suppose those tin foil signal blockers might be useful?

Do not use devices that can be trivially tracked through the cell network, or that can be surveilled by big tech. This means a device bought anonymously, a free/libre OS like Graphene, no Google/Facebook/Apple spyware apps, and an anonymous SIM paid for with cash or crypto. This should be done by everyone to avoid the possibility of mass surveillance, not only people who have something to hide from a three-letter age…

> a device bought anonymously

> an anonymous SIM paid for with cash or crypto

i think these already have you screwed. that anonymity is going to be superficial at best. you will be recorded making these purchases, and tracked to your identity

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Post by eunoia »

GaryBluto wrote: post #187
b40d-48b2-979e wrote: post #168

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I'm curious why you edited your comment? To appear more rational while making irrational tropes? > Only one side If you're going to use that tired old trope, maybe Reddit is a more suitable place for you. Thanks for reminding me to add it to my blocklist though. It is not a trope but a statement of fact.

I thought better of that quoted paragraph as it contained little substance and was just rude goading, which is ironically what you are doing.

How dare you quote me!
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