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Re: Anna's Archive loses .org domain after surprise suspension

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post #196

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To add a little context, this suspension comes immediately after Anna's Archive publicly implicated themselves in the Spotify scraping "hack" in which they downloaded nearly the entire content library of Spotify and was preparing to release it publicly (~300TB worth) via torrent. They published a blog post outlining their plans.

Yeah, obviously I don't know if it is actually related, but my first thought when I couldn't open it today was "Told you so"...

Spotify was created from a library of pirated music.. the irony

Re: Anna's Archive loses .org domain after surprise suspension

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post #177

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Fortunately, Spotify does not have that power. Annas Archive is not based in US or EU jurisdictions. They can make access for normal people a bit harder, but not shut it down. (Edited for clarity)

> Fortunately, Spotify does not have that power. They are not based in US or EU jurisdictions. Perhaps I misunderstood something, but according to my understanding 1. Spotify is registered in Luxembourg and has its operational headquarter in Sweden (Stockholm). Both are EU countries. 2. I guess it won't be Spotify that sues, but the individual music labels (very likely united).

Presumably the opposing party is residing in non-US-or(and? depends on the order of evaluation)-EU territory, but I might be mistaken. "They" refers to both sides in the parent comment.

Re: Anna's Archive loses .org domain after surprise suspension

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post #188

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There is no requirement for a non-profit organisation to be registered.

When people talk about a "non profit" entity, they are almost certainly referring to a legal non-profit. Maybe that's not what GP meant. And yes, you are technically correct in that there's no way to know that they are or are not pulling in money and pocketing it. I'm not sure how that's relevant to the questions asked but okay.

> When people talk about a "non profit" entity, they are almost certainly referring to a legal non-profit.

In UK, a non-profit association does not have to be legally registered to be legal.

Re: Anna's Archive loses .org domain after surprise suspension

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post #177

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Fortunately, Spotify does not have that power. Annas Archive is not based in US or EU jurisdictions. They can make access for normal people a bit harder, but not shut it down. (Edited for clarity)

> Fortunately, Spotify does not have that power. They are not based in US or EU jurisdictions. Perhaps I misunderstood something, but according to my understanding 1. Spotify is registered in Luxembourg and has its operational headquarter in Sweden (Stockholm). Both are EU countries. 2. I guess it won't be Spotify that sues, but the individual music labels (very likely united).

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Re: Anna's Archive loses .org domain after surprise suspension

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post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fortunately, Spotify does not have that power. Annas Archive is not based in US or EU jurisdictions. They can make access for normal people a bit harder, but not shut it down. (Edited for clarity)

> Fortunately, Spotify does not have that power. They are not based in US or EU jurisdictions. Perhaps I misunderstood something, but according to my understanding 1. Spotify is registered in Luxembourg and has its operational headquarter in Sweden (Stockholm). Both are EU countries. 2. I guess it won't be Spotify that sues, but the individual music labels (very likely united).

Annas archive is not based in the EU (sorry for being not clear). So the law in EU is limited to enforce a ban. In germany it is already "banned" via ISP but just DNS.

But the real servers are hosted in kazachstan or russia I think. And they do not cooperate so much with EU courts.

So unless the EU installs a great firewall like china, they cannot really shut it down.

Re: Anna's Archive loses .org domain after surprise suspension

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post #24

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Linking to illegal services can be illegal, that’s why.

> Linking to illegal services can be illegal, that’s why. What is illegal in one country can be illegal everywhere. I don't remember Wikipedia removing LGBTIAQ++ articles just because that's illegal in Iran. If a government thinks Wikipedia is illegal in their country, they can force local ISP providers to block it, but it's not Wikipedia's responsibility [1] to censor itself. [1] at least should not be

The Wikimedia Foundation is a US corporation. There are national chapters in some other countries, which are corporations in the respective country. The internet isn't the Wild West; websites are subject to the laws of the countries they operate in.

Re: Anna's Archive loses .org domain after surprise suspension

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post #51

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Better have a .onion. It's almost impossible to seize and you control the keys. YOU ARE THE OWNER, not some for-profit registrar. Onions should be the default, it's secure (you own the keys), decentralized and far better than relying on CAs for encryption.

>It's almost impossible to seize and you control the keys. YOU ARE THE OWNER, not some for-profit registrar. You may own the keys but the non-profit The Tor Project owns the network. And when they decide to shut it down your "ownership" of the domain keys doesn't matter in the slightest. You might think this is a silly scenario but actually it happened in 2021/2022 when the tor project unilaterally decided to kill th…

They didn't provide any migration path from v2 to v3?

Re: Anna's Archive loses .org domain after surprise suspension

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post #167

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How do you access Yggdrasil? .onion addresses require downloading a web browser.

Yggdrasil provides an IPv6 address in a formerly reserved and therefore unused block, so you just run Yggdrasil and visit the IPv6 address.

How do you run Yggdrasil? Explain it like I'm an end-user who has no idea what IP is, much less IPv6.

My point is, how many users would have access to something on Yggdrasil? How many could - what skill is required?

Re: Anna's Archive loses .org domain after surprise suspension

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>It's almost impossible to seize and you control the keys. YOU ARE THE OWNER, not some for-profit registrar. You may own the keys but the non-profit The Tor Project owns the network. And when they decide to shut it down your "ownership" of the domain keys doesn't matter in the slightest. You might think this is a silly scenario but actually it happened in 2021/2022 when the tor project unilaterally decided to kill th…

They didn't provide any migration path from v2 to v3?

They did not. And many apps (Ricochet Messenger comes to mind) were not visited by a web browser. So it isn't like you could announce an HTTP 302 and just seamlessly transition.

Re: Anna's Archive loses .org domain after surprise suspension

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post #180

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Kiwifarms is also a notable web site but they do not show a link to it. This means there is editorialisation going on.

That's a common problem of English, German, and a few more Wikipedia editor gangs seeing themselves as the moral guardians of the internet. If you switch to some other languages, you'll find the links.

Having a sense of morality is not a problem. Good for them.
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