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Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by mlrtime »

goatlover wrote: post #102
hwguy45 wrote: post #74

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Some say unfortunate, others say fortunate. It's a luxury belief to want to let people walk across the border and have no repercussions. Enforce the border, get all the illegals out.

Everyone in this country regardless of their status is still guaranteed due process by the Constitution. The Venezuelans and Abrego Garcia sent to CECOT was done without due process and in violation of a Federal Judge's orders. Not to mention CECOT is a horrible prison. I think it's cruel and inhuman to deport people already here unless they're engaged in criminal activities. Most of them are hard working people who…

Unfortunately for them they are technically criminals by entering illegally. They all knew they were taking a calculated risk by coming here, some made it, some did not.

Agreed on the reform, we are in a pendulum stage now where the previous admin let too many in without reform (The first 3 years) and how it's gone too far the other way.

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by bakies »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #195
goatlover wrote: post #174

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And how much do you think illegal immigration is costing tax payers for medical care in comparison?

Exactly, none. Illegal immigrants get no federal health care by law.

Dont bother, the user arguing doesnt care about laws, he cares about hurting immigrants for the sake that they're immigrants

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by bakies »

15155 wrote: post #169
bakies wrote: post #167

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> Civil Penalty Traffic ticket makes you a criminal? Deport you for speeding? > The law also says "jail them" - let's just deport them How about we follow the law. You're the one that cared so much about lawbreakers. Stop being cruel.

> Traffic ticket Maybe read or ask an LLM to summarize part (a) for you? Civil penalties are in addition to the criminal ones - reading can be tough, I know.

why dont we just kill them instead of deporting them it's cheaper? since we dont care about laws

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by hwguy45 »

goatlover wrote: post #102
hwguy45 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some say unfortunate, others say fortunate. It's a luxury belief to want to let people walk across the border and have no repercussions. Enforce the border, get all the illegals out.

Everyone in this country regardless of their status is still guaranteed due process by the Constitution. The Venezuelans and Abrego Garcia sent to CECOT was done without due process and in violation of a Federal Judge's orders. Not to mention CECOT is a horrible prison. I think it's cruel and inhuman to deport people already here unless they're engaged in criminal activities. Most of them are hard working people who…

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Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by fruitworks »

idiotsecant wrote: post #197
dleary wrote: post #100

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I'm almost as interested in debating this as I would be debating the livejournal girls who worshipped manson. It's the same thing. The guy was a gutless stinking murderer who was so afraid of debating his ideas on the merits that he spent his life shitting himself in a shack tying barbwire across bike trails to decapitate kids he didn't like and mailing innocent people instruments of death, torture, and terror. He wa…

What would debating the ideas do? You either get it or you don't. There is a large sum of people who are categoricially indifferent to the idea of debate. They just support the status quo blindly, no matter what.

For example, you haven't even read the first sentence of the relevant material and you are already in a soylent-driven tizzy making lists of synonyms and debating whether we should even be allowed to debate.

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Post by tomjakubowski »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #176
thrance wrote: post #88

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You should read up on China's credit score. There are a lot of misinformations about it online. In effect, it does little more than the US credit scores that inspired it.

> You should read up on China's credit score I could really say the same to you. Emphasizing original sources, not summaries. > In effect, it does little more than the US credit scores that inspired it “Little more” does a lot of heavy lifting here. The nuclear bomb was inspired by the explosive power of TNT.

Would you share an example of a Chinese citizen's social credit score having been dinged because they posted something naughty online?

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by heavyset_go »

mlrtime wrote: post #201
goatlover wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone in this country regardless of their status is still guaranteed due process by the Constitution. The Venezuelans and Abrego Garcia sent to CECOT was done without due process and in violation of a Federal Judge's orders. Not to mention CECOT is a horrible prison. I think it's cruel and inhuman to deport people already here unless they're engaged in criminal activities. Most of them are hard working people who…

Unfortunately for them they are technically criminals by entering illegally. They all knew they were taking a calculated risk by coming here, some made it, some did not. Agreed on the reform, we are in a pendulum stage now where the previous admin let too many in without reform (The first 3 years) and how it's gone too far the other way.

Overstay and unlawful presence are civil offenses, not criminal. Vast majority of undocumented people overstay visas and entered legally.

Asylum seekers are being abducted and deported to countries they have no ties to. It's perfectly legal to cross borders without inspection to seek asylum.

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by hwguy45 »

heavyset_go wrote: post #207
mlrtime wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately for them they are technically criminals by entering illegally. They all knew they were taking a calculated risk by coming here, some made it, some did not. Agreed on the reform, we are in a pendulum stage now where the previous admin let too many in without reform (The first 3 years) and how it's gone too far the other way.

Overstay and unlawful presence are civil offenses, not criminal. Vast majority of undocumented people overstay visas and entered legally. Asylum seekers are being abducted and deported to countries they have no ties to. It's perfectly legal to cross borders without inspection to seek asylum.

They are still deportable crimes. You cannot walk into a country and never leave just "because".

And no, the vast majority are not overstays. Less than half are overstays that came here legally [0]. So 58% crossed the border illegally.

Asylum seekers have been coached on what to say to claim asylum. Few are seeking asylum at all. The system is obviously being abused when these people vacation back to their home country that was so "dangerous" they claimed asylum.

[0] https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R47848

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by hwguy45 »

goatlover wrote: post #102
hwguy45 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some say unfortunate, others say fortunate. It's a luxury belief to want to let people walk across the border and have no repercussions. Enforce the border, get all the illegals out.

Everyone in this country regardless of their status is still guaranteed due process by the Constitution. The Venezuelans and Abrego Garcia sent to CECOT was done without due process and in violation of a Federal Judge's orders. Not to mention CECOT is a horrible prison. I think it's cruel and inhuman to deport people already here unless they're engaged in criminal activities. Most of them are hard working people who…

This is suicidal empathy. Mercy for the guilty is cruelty for the innocent.

I think it's cruel and inhumane to let millions unvetted into our neighborhoods, schools, and communities.

It means less jobs for American young people. It means loss of culture and shared spaces. It means your kids can't play with their neighbors because they don't speak the same language.

It's weakness and we need to stop rationalizing it.

Would you want these people as your neighbor? Not speaking English? How about your whole town?

It's cruel. The modern left does not care about Americans, only the foreigners who can't build a safe and prosperous country of their own.

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Post by jacquesm »

15155 wrote: post #159
tech_ken wrote: post #155

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You'll spend way more tax money to haul them across the border than you would to just print them a permit to live and work in the community they've been contributing to for years. Every study ever conducted on the issue has concluded that undocumented immigrants contribute far more to the economy than they consume in public welfare dollars. You've let the actual tax dollar parasites pawn the blame on a scapegoat beca…

> You'll spend way more tax money to haul them across the border than you would to just print them a permit to live and work in the community they've been contributing to for years At the expense of legal immigrants who bothered to do it the right way. Law enforcement isn't free, unfortunately. > Every study ever conducted on the issue has concluded that undocumented immigrants contribute far more to the economy than…

> At the expense of legal immigrants who bothered to do it the right way.

How come it is at their expense? The end result is a growing economy which benefits everybody.

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