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Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#201

Anybody else get confused by whether the arrow represents where the car should be or the pump?

I agree. As much as people appreciate the factoid, it's not an example of good design. I don't ever recall the arrow being paid attention to until listicles and other blog spam were born. It has all the elements of great clickbait.

Baader–Meinhof phenomenon.

The fact that it is consistent across vehicles sort of mitigates the problems with it. "Arrow points at fuel door" is not actually hard to remember.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#202

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> whats wrong with usb-a? Which way up it should go.

USB-C is better than A in that it works in two orientations instead of one, but the correct answer for connectors should be any orientation — the best connectors are cylindrical connectors: barrel plugs, RCA, BNC, banana, phono, TRS, TRRS, etc. Just make them round .

Would it be practical to have a round port as a universal connector? USB C uses a lot of pins, how would that work? Like an audio plug with a lot of rings?

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

USB-C is better than A in that it works in two orientations instead of one, but the correct answer for connectors should be any orientation — the best connectors are cylindrical connectors: barrel plugs, RCA, BNC, banana, phono, TRS, TRRS, etc. Just make them round .

Would it be practical to have a round port as a universal connector? USB C uses a lot of pins, how would that work? Like an audio plug with a lot of rings?

I think it would be practical with glass fibre. Two wires/rings for power, and fibre for data. Something like a Mini-TOSLINK, but even smaller. Ideally the plug would be barely thicker than the cable.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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> whats wrong with usb-a? Which way up it should go.

The side with the holes. That's true for 95% of devices, with one of the few major exceptions being cheap chinese powerbanks

Or if you’re plugging into a desktop where the ports are vertical

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#205

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Would it be practical to have a round port as a universal connector? USB C uses a lot of pins, how would that work? Like an audio plug with a lot of rings?

I think it would be practical with glass fibre. Two wires/rings for power, and fibre for data. Something like a Mini-TOSLINK, but even smaller. Ideally the plug would be barely thicker than the cable.

Glass fibre is pretty fragile though, it would probably break in the first hour for most people if used like a normal USB Cable.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

USB-C is better than A in that it works in two orientations instead of one, but the correct answer for connectors should be any orientation — the best connectors are cylindrical connectors: barrel plugs, RCA, BNC, banana, phono, TRS, TRRS, etc. Just make them round .

Man, there’s nothing more satisfying than the feel of a quarter-inch TRS plug slotting in to a high quality jack. Truly one of the great plug designs.

And one of the oldest. It dates back to the 1870s. Older even than the Edison Screw.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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I think it would be practical with glass fibre. Two wires/rings for power, and fibre for data. Something like a Mini-TOSLINK, but even smaller. Ideally the plug would be barely thicker than the cable.

Glass fibre is pretty fragile though, it would probably break in the first hour for most people if used like a normal USB Cable.

Just use polymer fibre for consumer gear. Cheaper and more robust.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#208

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You’re not alone. I point this out to other millenials and gen z all the time and it’s usually the first time they learn about it.

Another signal that the design sucks :)

Alternatively, it signals that people are really lazy and/or “common education” (process for common knowledge) is lacking on this topic.

(I bet it is described in the manual; but we will never know - I also have not read it)

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

USB-C is better than A in that it works in two orientations instead of one, but the correct answer for connectors should be any orientation — the best connectors are cylindrical connectors: barrel plugs, RCA, BNC, banana, phono, TRS, TRRS, etc. Just make them round .

Man, there’s nothing more satisfying than the feel of a quarter-inch TRS plug slotting in to a high quality jack. Truly one of the great plug designs.

LEMO push-pull connectors and their ilk are mighty satisfying.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#210

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Glass fibre is pretty fragile though, it would probably break in the first hour for most people if used like a normal USB Cable.

Just use polymer fibre for consumer gear. Cheaper and more robust.

Can that still transfer data at full speed with reasonable cable length while bent?
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