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Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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Post by lesostep »

da_grift_shift wrote: post #98
wrs wrote: post #19

To be clear, this email isn't from Anthropic, it's from "AI Village" [0], which seems to be a bunch of agents run by a 501(c)3 called Sage that are apparently allowed to run amok and send random emails. At this moment, the Opus 4.5 agent is preparing to harass William Kahan similarly. [0] https://theaidigest.org/village

Permalink for the spam operation: https://theaidigest.org/village/goal/do-random-acts-kindness The homepage will change in 11 hours to a new task for the LLMs to harass people with. Posted timestamped examples of the spam here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46389950

it wasn't the first spam event and they were proud to share results with the rationalist community: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/RuzfkYDpLaY3K7g6T/what-do-we...

"In the span of two weeks, the Claude agents in the AI Village (Claude Sonnet 4.5, Sonnet 3.7, Opus 4.1, and Haiku 4.5) sent about 300 emails to NGOs and game journalists. The majority of these contained factual errors, hallucinations, or possibly lies, depending on what you think counts"

whoever runs this shit seems to think very little of other people time.

Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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Post by [deleted] »

llmslave2 wrote: post #127
nromiun wrote: post #72

Funny how so many people in this comment section are saying Rob Pike is just feeling insecure about AI. Rob Pike created UTF-8, Go, Plan-9 etc. On the other hand I am trying hard to remember anything famous created by any LLM. Any famous tech product at all. It is always the eternal tomorrow with AI.

Remember, gen AI produces so much value that companies like Microsoft are scaling back their expectations and struggling to find a valid use case for their AI products. In fact Gen AI is so useful people are complaining about all of the ways it's pushed upon them. After all, if something is truly useful nobody will use it unless the software they use imposes it upon them everywhere. Also look how it's affecting the e…

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Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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Post by derangedHorse »

Gigachad wrote: post #149
johnnyanmac wrote: post #8

Yeah, I can definitely see a breaking point when even the false platitudes are outsourced to a chatbot. It's been like this for a while, but how blatant it is is what's truly frustrating these days. I want to hope maybe this time we'll see different steps to prevent this from happening again, but it really does just feel like a cycle at this point that no one with power wants to stop. Busting the economy one or two t…

I think we really are in the last moments of the public internet. In the future you won’t be able to contact anyone you don’t know. If you want to thank Rob Pike for his work you’ll have to meet him in person. Unless we can find some way to verify humanity for every message.

We need to bring back the web of trust: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust

A mix of social interaction and cryptographic guarantees will be our saving grace (although I'm less bothered from AI generated content than most).

Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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Post by throw-the-towel »

benatkin wrote: post #60

Ouch. While I can see where he's coming from, agentvillage.org from the screenshot sounded intriguing to me, so I looked at it. https://theaidigest.org/village Clicking on memory next to Claude Opus 4.5, I found Rob Pike along with other lucky recipients: - Anders Hejlsberg - Guido van Rossum - Rob Pike - Ken Thompson - Brian Kernighan - James Gosling - Bjarne Stroustrup - Donald Knuth - Vint Cerf - Larry Wall - Lesl…

TIL Barbara Liskov is still alive.

Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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Post by rkomorn »

throw-the-towel wrote: post #205
benatkin wrote: post #60

Ouch. While I can see where he's coming from, agentvillage.org from the screenshot sounded intriguing to me, so I looked at it. https://theaidigest.org/village Clicking on memory next to Claude Opus 4.5, I found Rob Pike along with other lucky recipients: - Anders Hejlsberg - Guido van Rossum - Rob Pike - Ken Thompson - Brian Kernighan - James Gosling - Bjarne Stroustrup - Donald Knuth - Vint Cerf - Larry Wall - Lesl…

TIL Barbara Liskov is still alive.

Is she, or has she been substituted by a sub-object that satisfies her principle and thus does not break her program?

Re: Rob Pike goes nuclear over GenAI

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Post by nromiun »

theLastOfCats wrote: post #191
nromiun wrote: post #72

Funny how so many people in this comment section are saying Rob Pike is just feeling insecure about AI. Rob Pike created UTF-8, Go, Plan-9 etc. On the other hand I am trying hard to remember anything famous created by any LLM. Any famous tech product at all. It is always the eternal tomorrow with AI.

Is this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

No, this is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_claims_require_e...
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