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I'm a laptop weirdo and that's why I like my new Framework 13

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Re: I'm a laptop weirdo and that's why I like my new Framework 13

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I was hoping that this is how it would work for System76 -- when I bought the laptop they sold replacement batteries. Five years later I find myself needing a battery and they are unavailable -- not on System76's website, not online, nowhere. My only option is to either replace the laptop or buy a used one and take the battery from that, hoping that it's good. For the last six months I've just been using a laptop as…

I use laptops since the 90‘. I only ever wanted to get a new battery. Everthing else never had anybsignificant problem, or started to have problems when the machine was already obsolete (5 to 10 years). While I like the Frameworks, I personally don’t see lots of advantages in terms of reparability, ovly eventually in making one with exactly what I need and no more. But then they are a little pricey.

Had to replace the NVME SSD in my Thinkpad a few years after it went out of warranty (that Thinkpad has a motherboard replacement on warranty as well). Needed to replace the fan in an older Thinkpad after 9 years.

Unfortunately the quality of Thinkpads went downhill after Lenovo took over, they used to be really good. But there is nothing else with trackpoints these days, which I vastly prefer over touchpads. (And even on some old Dells that had trackpoints, they never felt as good as on Thinkpads.) Also, Linux support was always very good, though that is less of an issue these days.

Never had to replace a battery though, but I always used that "don't charge more than 80%" mode. My old Thinkpad with a Core 2 Duo from 2009 still gets over a hour of battery (though the laptop is largely unusable for any practical use these days).

I don't mind repairing electronics in general, even on a component level if need be (as long as the components are large enough that I can see them, which really isn't the case any longer with tiny SMD components). And I tend to use things for a very long time rather than replace them. I'm still rocking a Dell monitor from 2013 for example.

Re: I'm a laptop weirdo and that's why I like my new Framework 13

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The really special thing about Frameworks is that you can quickly buy and replace basically any part, not just the usual RAM and SSD -- case in point, when I managed to damage my FW13's keyboard such that it was no longer usable, I could just... go straight to Framework's website and buy a new one for $40. And, I even had the option of a slightly improved one, that shed the Windows key and lacked the god-awful copilo…

Oh this is great, my keyboard is flaking and the hinge is as you say, I didn't realize they'd fixed it. I'll do some shopping now, thanks!

Re: I'm a laptop weirdo and that's why I like my new Framework 13

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The really special thing about Frameworks is that you can quickly buy and replace basically any part, not just the usual RAM and SSD -- case in point, when I managed to damage my FW13's keyboard such that it was no longer usable, I could just... go straight to Framework's website and buy a new one for $40. And, I even had the option of a slightly improved one, that shed the Windows key and lacked the god-awful copilo…

I replaced the keyboard in my 5 year old Dell laptop without difficulty. The battery as well (at the same time). It was an instant way to make it run and feel like new

Re: I'm a laptop weirdo and that's why I like my new Framework 13

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It depends on vendor really - I have Lenovo T480 and I replaced keyboard earlier this year (there are various options like w/ or w/o backlit + layout (I'm Czech), I have 2 batteries - one for "normal" use and extended one (in size and capacity) for traveling, changing multiple SSDs and RAM is possible (not soldered)... it's not framework, but easily fixable and Linux friendly HW.

T480 is indeed superb (except for being on the heavy side). I accidentally hurled my phone into the screen (both were on the bed and I shook the sheets trying to find the beeping phone). The replacement screen was like $75 and a 5 minute job. On MacBooks that’s typically closer to $600. I’ll probably replace it eventually with a t14 which is pretty light these days.

the T series thinkpads tend to have a high repairability rating (9/10 on ifixit ) and easy affordable access to parts, it's the X series that's a PITA imo

Re: I'm a laptop weirdo and that's why I like my new Framework 13

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I've had a Framework 13 for 20 months now. AMD Ryzen™ 5 7640U w/ 32GB DDR4. Running Ubuntu. I love it. My only complaint/request: USB-C for power should be build into the chassis and not require a modular port. You get 4 ports to mix things like usb/hdmi/sd-card, etc... 1 of the 4 is always using the usb-c for power.

Re: I'm a laptop weirdo and that's why I like my new Framework 13

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Also, something weird: I looked up my purchase using my Framework account to confirm my purchase date, and it lists my mother board as System: Intel® Core™ i7-1260P. Sloppy record keeping like this doesn't inspire confidence. It is definitely not, and /proc/cpuinfo confirms it: model name : AMD Ryzen 7 7840U w/ Radeon 780M Graphics

Could you submit a support ticket around the order record issue? We certainly want to determine what happened there: https://frame.work/support/

Done! Thanks for coming here to read the tough hacker new comments. I really like what you're doing with Framework, and I hope you are able to keep iterating and improving.

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Update: Sorry, there is no mistake! The i7 order was my original pre-order, which I canceled. My order is correctly recorded.

Re: I'm a laptop weirdo and that's why I like my new Framework 13

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I did this repair and it was not nearly as easy as you imply. The wire is extremely thin, and the pad on the motherboard is extremely small. I had to purchase special eye-wear in order to see what I was doing, in addition to a soldering iron. It was and is totally wrong that Framework requires users to repair a component that was faulty from the factory. You should ship the laptops back to your facility and repair th…

The warranty suggests that Framework would "ship the laptops back to [their] facility and repair them, at [their] expense," as you said they should. Did that not happen while your warranty period was in effect? https://frame.work/warranty

No, it did not. And you had one of their representatives in this thread verify that fact. They expected you to do the repair with a soldering iron.

Re: I'm a laptop weirdo and that's why I like my new Framework 13

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The really special thing about Frameworks is that you can quickly buy and replace basically any part, not just the usual RAM and SSD -- case in point, when I managed to damage my FW13's keyboard such that it was no longer usable, I could just... go straight to Framework's website and buy a new one for $40. And, I even had the option of a slightly improved one, that shed the Windows key and lacked the god-awful copilo…

I could have had my hinge replaced for free? Crap lol

Re: I'm a laptop weirdo and that's why I like my new Framework 13

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I’ve always found this line of thinking to match up with drivers of old Land Rovers. The thinking goes they are brilliant because they are so easy to repair and parts are easy to source globally. While that’s true, I much prefer to drive vehicles that don’t need repairs.

I don't know about you, but every laptop I've had suffered some sort of malfunction sooner or later and I never bothered to have them serviced because it was too much of a hassle - especially seeing how a friend of mine outright battled Lenovo support over mundane things like a failing keyboard despite everything being still in warranty. Specific issues by laptop: 1. Pressure marks on screen, failing USB ports, crack…

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