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Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

catlikesshrimp wrote: post #183
al_borland wrote: post #107

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I think it’s a little of both. Sure, they have failures, not no one is perfect. I think the iPad is a good example. Bill Gates had a dream of the paperless office and tried to make the tablet PC happens by putting Windows XP on tablets with some pen support. I saw a few of them in my help desk days in college, but they never really caught on. They put a desktop OS on a tablet and it was annoying to use. They also tri…

Before that monster you described, there was Windows CE (Windows CE used a different kernel), specifically for mobile. It supported networking and peripherals. And it was very successful for years.

I programmed ruggedized Windows CE devices for field services for awhile. They were really never that popular.

Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by miloignis »

axus wrote: post #31
dav43 wrote: post #22

The App Store is an absolute sh!t hole of an experience. Irrelevant ads, impossible to find anything decent. It’s the internet of 1998 pre google.

Have you browsed Google Play? :) Or Amazon appstore for that matter.

Have you browsed F-Droid?

Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by coldtea »

fasbiner wrote: post #39
mystifyingpoi wrote: post #14

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THIS. Never promote the idea of "can you please not bother me with ads, there you go there is your extra $100, what, $200? okay sure". That's how mafia operates. Do not promote such.

People pay the mafia protection money because it's cheaper than fighting the mob and it makes the mob go away for awhile, and in the long run, we're all dead. Most mafia-like entities don't have an inexorable existential drive to take it all, they just charge what the market will bear. And if you think there's a definitional difference between a government, a corporation and a mafia that stands up to any objective me…

>And if you think there's a definitional difference between a government, a corporation and a mafia that stands up to any objective measure and isn't based entirely on social cues and special pleading,

If we're speaking of democratic governments you usually get to vote (whatever ineffective). And if we're speaking for non monopolistic corporations you also get to buy from another. With mafia there's a single, non-negotiable, option: the one running your area.

And both for goverments and corporations, there are other parties (e.g. courts) limiting what they can do.

Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by coldtea »

bigyabai wrote: post #56
fasbiner wrote: post #39

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People pay the mafia protection money because it's cheaper than fighting the mob and it makes the mob go away for awhile, and in the long run, we're all dead. Most mafia-like entities don't have an inexorable existential drive to take it all, they just charge what the market will bear. And if you think there's a definitional difference between a government, a corporation and a mafia that stands up to any objective me…

> and in the long run, we're all dead. Well gee, when you put it like that all morality is relative huh?

Morality is all relative any way you put it. There's no God-given objective morality, it's human made and changes.

Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by nottorp »

squigz wrote: post #185
audunw wrote: post #123

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You say it's not marked as an ad, but in that image there's a clear blue "Ad" label. Are there cases where that label is not present?

It's marked as an ad the exact same way they do it on Android and the exact same way it's done on Google. These responses are a bit surprising. I wonder how people would have responded if this were about Android.

> It's marked as an ad the exact same way they do it on Android and the exact same way it's done on Google.

That is, in the most deceiving way they could think of while still being able to say they marked it.

Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by wkjagt »

I haven't looked at Apple in a long time. The page reads like a parody, and I had to double check that I was actually on apple.com. The whole industry seems to be in a place where everyone just accepts that most good things are now ruined anyway, so might as well ruin them some more.

Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

spiderfarmer wrote: post #13
ee64a4a wrote: post #9

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> Apple managed to become the most valuable company in the world without ads. Yeah, but what about next quarter? Jokes aside, they're not the most valuable company anymore. Nvidia is ahead, I think MS has jockeyed with them on that position a few times and is still on their heels, and Google is ascendant (even ahead of MS as of end of close) after the antitrust clouds started to recede and Gemini started to match Cla…

What will happen to nvidia when their market becomes saturated? That seems inevitable.

The failure rate of data center GPUs is around 2 years…

Re: 2026 Apple introducing more ads to increase opportunity in search results

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Post by coldtea »

b112 wrote: post #193
rcMgD2BwE72F wrote: post #112

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Of course morality is relative. But still, there's no point to compare something to nothing and say "why bother". Comparisons can be useful.

Only a left or right, one or the other world view would think such. As with almost everything, it's both. Some morality is relative, some is absolute.

What morality is absolute?

Morality being absolute means just that you subjectively consider some moral rules absolute. Doesn't make them so, the way the law of gravity is absolute.

And it doesn't mean that every human society agrees to what you consider "absolute".

All things you consider "absolute", there are whole societies which found them to be just fine, and you'd do too if you were raised in them, including incest, murder of innocents, slavery, torture...

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