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Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy

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lief79 wrote: post #198
vasco wrote: post #195

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Yes but it's stupid to force them to do it. If the state wants to demand this the state can pay for it. To hide free knowledge just because of a few specific pet disabilities... The content is also not accessible to someone with serious enough learning disabilities for example. Should they be forced to create an accessible version of that?

Oddly enough, UC Berkley is public education, so it's the federal government and state government. At least technically true.

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Post by andrepd »

TheSkyHasEyes wrote: post #163
ravenstine wrote: post #135

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Modern society totally devalues anything considered even slightly old. I used to notice it as a real lack of intergenerational knowledge transfer, but it's gotten so bad that it seems like more and more people react with "how do you know so much?" and "why would you do that?" over very basic knowledge that isn't even that old. For all the reading the average person claims to do, they sure don't seem to know very much…

> Modern society totally devalues anything considered even slightly old. Mild counterpoint. Our professions(all things IT) moves bloody fast. If I were looking for info on cooking, baking, knitting sure... but IT stuff, I opine many of us seek the latest info because of the breakneck speeds this profession is known for.

JS frameworks and chasing AI fads, perhaps. But fundamentals? Engineering principles? How CPUs work? Linux, networking, x86? Stuff that is decades old still applies.

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Post by CobrastanJorji »

nkmnz wrote: post #179
jspann wrote: post #166

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> 50% of buyers don't even finish the first video. Just wondering - Is that a guess or a backed up statistic? Would be eye opening if that really was the case

I stand corrected! It's 52% that don't even START the first video![0] Other studies report that number at 35%.[1] One thing that's more consistent are average completion rates hovering around 5%. [0] https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aav7958 as cited by [1] [1] https://openpraxis.org/articles/606/files/66d16716e6c09.pdf

I never got past the second or third lecture in a "Learning How to Learn" class, which I suppose at least meant I had identified the correct problem.

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Post by x0x0 »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #182
azangru wrote: post #52

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> Those courses that were basically “we’re a top university and we let someone record the class from the back” were a literal life changer. Honestly, that was all I wanted. Does anyone remember what happened to UC Berkeley? They had a lot of their courses recorded and uploaded to youtube; an absolute joy. Then, some [beep] sued them for not making the recording accessible enough, i.e. not providing captions alongside…

> And they had to take down all their published courses! No. They chose to take them down, instead of providing reasonable accommodations to those with disabilities. Choosing to see everything in the most cynical light doesn't make that version of events true.

Making giving that away for free instead cost millions of dollars has an obvious and inevitable outcome.

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Post by warkdarrior »

nickjj wrote: post #170
ravenstine wrote: post #135

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Modern society totally devalues anything considered even slightly old. I used to notice it as a real lack of intergenerational knowledge transfer, but it's gotten so bad that it seems like more and more people react with "how do you know so much?" and "why would you do that?" over very basic knowledge that isn't even that old. For all the reading the average person claims to do, they sure don't seem to know very much…

Yep, you're definitely not wrong. We see it all the time on GitHub. If a project hasn't gotten a new commit in 2 days then the project is claimed dead. The same thing with blogs in general. A post could be popular and ranked highly in 2020 but in 2025 it's not even ranked on a search engine, even if the content is still highly relevant and fully working. It's bad because you could have a 10+ year old site with 500+ p…

> If a project hasn't gotten a new commit in 2 days then the project is claimed dead.

That is certainly true, those projects are effectively dead. They lack security updates, lack integrations with new platforms, lack support for new HW architectures, lack newer privacy guarantees, etc., etc.

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Post by JoshTriplett »

warkdarrior wrote: post #205
nickjj wrote: post #170

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Yep, you're definitely not wrong. We see it all the time on GitHub. If a project hasn't gotten a new commit in 2 days then the project is claimed dead. The same thing with blogs in general. A post could be popular and ranked highly in 2020 but in 2025 it's not even ranked on a search engine, even if the content is still highly relevant and fully working. It's bad because you could have a 10+ year old site with 500+ p…

> If a project hasn't gotten a new commit in 2 days then the project is claimed dead. That is certainly true, those projects are effectively dead. They lack security updates, lack integrations with new platforms, lack support for new HW architectures, lack newer privacy guarantees, etc., etc.

That's what I'd expect if I see a project with no commits in 2 years. Not 2 days.

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Post by inetknght »

dijit wrote: post #151
oceansky wrote: post #148

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Can you give specific examples on lost knowledge?

“why is I/O in docker slow, and how would you improve it” is pretty esoteric knowledge now, but would have been considered basic knowledge (for other applications, not specifically just docker) only 12 years ago. I have had people working who don’t in the slightest understand how a filesystem works, so taking it a step further is impossible. When I tune things I am asked how I know, but everything is just built from…

> I have had people working who don’t in the slightest understand how a filesystem works, so taking it a step further is impossible.

It's as if computer science, in terms of data structures and algorithms, isn't taught. Or, perhaps, isn't taught as being relevant.

As for lack of knowledge about filesystems: it might be contributed by mobile devices hiding real filesystems from users.

> the basics don’t make you feel productive, so they’re always skipped when possible.

Basics do make me feel productive. However, it seems bosses and businesses don't agree.

I fear the day basics can be automated away.

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Post by nickjj »

zenoprax wrote: post #192
nickjj wrote: post #83

I was a Udemy instructor for ~10 years selling tech courses but focused more on delivering courses through my own site for the last ~5-6 years. Something never felt right with how Udemy promoted courses. I used to have a top selling course there, selling thousands of copies a month and now it gets basically no sales but it's still one of the highest rated courses in that niche on their platform. It's just no longer r…

I respect the restraint from self-promotion here but... Your [Docker, Flask, HTTPS, AWS Docker, and DevOps courses]( https://nickjanetakis.com/courses ) look good and the price is fair. Bookmarked! (the last two could use some more detail in the overview but the first three would give me enough confidence to take a chance)

Thanks, funny enough the last 2 are on Udemy (my first courses) where as the others are on my main site.

I've kept the Flask one up to date for almost 10 years, all free updates.

I have so many course ideas but starting a new one is tough because I've lost all search traction to my site and courses in general. I don't want it to end but I also have to be real.

I've put a decade into writing blog posts, hundreds of free YouTube videos (without ads or sponsors), 100+ episode podcast related to programming and none of it has grown an audience in 5-10 years. I mean sure I have 21k subs on YouTube but most videos get like 200 views. I do it because I enjoy it but that doesn't mean it's wrong to also want to be able to sustain myself again doing it like I did between 2015 and 2021.

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Post by torginus »

piyushpr134 wrote: post #14

Universities are not going anywhere MOOC are a dead end

Honestly years out of college, I really want to refresh my engineering education, and perhaps get academically rigorous education on topics I missed out on back then.

While these Udemy is fine for building up CV bullet point skills, I have never felt that these tutorial based job training courses, designed to teach you framework N+1 were as useful as more fundamentaly and in depth courses that lead you to understand how things really work.

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Post by bdangubic »

bpt3 wrote: post #159
bdangubic wrote: post #109

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they have been trained on material not just by single subject matter expert but all of them :)

They have not, because a large portion of the knowledge obtained by subject matter experts in any given field has never been published. Also, hallucinations are still a thing, and there's a reason why LLMs do not outperform subject matter experts in nearly every field.

I was being facetious but am now extremely curious about large portion of the knowledge obtained by subject matter experts in any given field has never been published - this is not only strange to me in the small but you are claiming that this is large portion so I am wondering if you have any example(s) to share?
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