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Re: US Tech Force

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

voidfunc wrote: post #144
jotux wrote: post #58

>What is the expected compensation for participants? Compensation varies based on experience level and agency placement. Annual salaries are expected to be in the approximate range of $150,000 to $200,000. Benefits include health insurance, retirement plans, paid time off, and eligibility for performance-based awards. >Tech Force will primarily recruit early-career technologists So "early-career" but they're going to…

If I was late-career with a good solid financial foundation im place and just looking to work to cover living expenses the Federal Gov as fucked as it may be doesn't seem like a bad gig. Since the bar is so incredibly fucking low you just mail it in and collect the money and when youre furloughed you play golf or do extra hobbies. The ball just needs to keep moving, it doesn't actually need to move quickly. Heck it d…

I am 51 “late career” and there is no way in hell I would work for the federal government now.

Even if I didn’t care about the politics, I have made more than the posted salaries working full time for outside consulting companies contracting with the federal government over the last five years and I wasn’t working at the whims of the government

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

usefulcat wrote: post #190
ethbr1 wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This feels like it needs a MAGA vs Republican distinction. There are plenty of Republicans who (privately) have issues with some things Trump is doing.

Talk is cheap; actions are what matters. Based on their actions (or lack thereof), the group you're describing must be a very small minority indeed.

They aren't in Congress, they are working in the states, I would guess. The Republicans in Congress mostly volunteered for a spinectomy when Trump was elected again.

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by mixmastamyk »

ivanech wrote: post #151
jotux wrote: post #58

>What is the expected compensation for participants? Compensation varies based on experience level and agency placement. Annual salaries are expected to be in the approximate range of $150,000 to $200,000. Benefits include health insurance, retirement plans, paid time off, and eligibility for performance-based awards. >Tech Force will primarily recruit early-career technologists So "early-career" but they're going to…

I believe the new grad DOGE employees were GS-15s. So yes, it seems likely that they plan to hire at GS-14 or GS-15.

It still takes around 5-15 years to get to the upper end of the pay scale, currently $195K.

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Post by exceptione »

neogodless wrote: post #104
soared wrote: post #100

This makes feel a bit queasy for some reason https://americabydesign.gov/

> This is President Trump going bigger than President Nixon. You don't say...

I wonder if there are living people who don't interpret it as a sign of something __REALLY__ weird going on here.

I view Trump as a clinical case of narcissism, bad upbringing, screwed-up mentors, but too late for treatment anyways.

But man, the crowd that lick his boots in public for a position or some coins... They should be shunned for life. This level of sycophancy would destroy one's reputation for ever in my culture and I just don't want to believe it wouldn't in American culture. But even the official government channels have been turned into fan pages run by six year olds. Not even the most backward countries in the world do look so stupid, so overtly corrupt, so I am at a loss: why does the USA? Is this really considered acceptable? Maybe some Americans can explain how this is being perceived in cultural terms.

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Post by exceptione »

kulahan wrote: post #187
kstrauser wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I about spit my coffee when I saw that. Good grief. > We've been conditioned to accept that mediocre in government is normal. Yes, I do now accept that mediocre [sic] in government is normal for the next few years.

Are you under the impression this is somehow different from the last few years?

Are you American? Do you think this is normal? Just curious (non American).

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

alephnerd wrote: post #123
testing22321 wrote: post #96

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> Benefits include health insurance, retirement plans, paid time off, and eligibility for performance-based awards Paid time off??? Health insurance??? Retirement plans???? OMG this is incredible! What an offer! /s

No 401k can ever match the beauty that is the TSP.

I can guarantee you I can save/invest more in the private sector with the gap between public sector pay and make up for the TSP.

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by kstrauser »

kulahan wrote: post #187
kstrauser wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I about spit my coffee when I saw that. Good grief. > We've been conditioned to accept that mediocre in government is normal. Yes, I do now accept that mediocre [sic] in government is normal for the next few years.

Are you under the impression this is somehow different from the last few years?

Of course. Whatever problems the US government had before, mass firings, loyalty tests, furloughs, and endless other shenanigans have only exacerbated them.

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Post by lovich »

ethbr1 wrote: post #175
dabockster wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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This feels like it needs a MAGA vs Republican distinction. There are plenty of Republicans who (privately) have issues with some things Trump is doing.

That distinction ended when Romney left Congress. It’s entirely MAGA now.

It’s not even historically rare for a party to merge or be subsumed like that. Here’s the historical list just for the US

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_t...

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by r_lee »

volkl48 wrote: post #196
redbluered wrote: post #181

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> The only time I had to filter out a candidate was due to a quick check of his public social media where he was "enthusiastically" pro Palestine with questionable posts. Sounds like a place I wouldn't want to work (and filtering for the reverse stance would be equally problematic). Do you think things will work better if we have pro-Israel and pro-Palestine companies with the two groups never talking?

I would suspect that the previous poster means something along the lines of: The kind of posts that are so extreme that they're a significant reputational/PR risk to hire. No company wants to be flipping on the news and see their name associated with someone who's openly advocating for atrocities. Or that create significant concern that they're unwilling to do their job responsibilities if it means working with/inter…

I've heard of a case like that where they started fights in the workplace over their views and trying to sabotage others...

Re: US Tech Force

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Post by thfuran »

ethbr1 wrote: post #175
dabockster wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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This feels like it needs a MAGA vs Republican distinction. There are plenty of Republicans who (privately) have issues with some things Trump is doing.

Ten years ago, that distinction may have been a valid one.
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