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Re: Paramount launches hostile bid for Warner Bros

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Post by psunavy03 »

hopelite wrote: post #169
dabockster wrote: post #166

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The failed merger and similar clawback clause between Kroger and Albertsons is currently destroying a significant part of the supply chain for food in the Pacific Northwest. Grocery stores that have been open for 50-75 years - stores where whole neighborhoods and towns were built around - are closing forever, leaving those areas as food deserts. Either way, this entertainment merger is going to get ugly. Consumers ar…

I’m not sure it’s a fair comparison, groceries that sell food on one hand and a brainwashing and propaganda delivery system (see History of criminal, industry/advertiser, FBI, CIA, Pentagon, and foreign nation direct ties to the industry) masquerading as “entertainment” on the other. You don’t have to be “harmed”, just do not pay them your money. Problem solved. If the prospect of not being “entertained” fills you wi…

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Post by Muromec »

yibg wrote: post #191
bsimpson wrote: post #150

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There's no "supposedly." His kids are nepobabies that each run their own media company. His son is running Paramount, and his daughter has Annapurna.

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russia doesnt have oligarchs for 15 years at least, it has the opposite of it. Oligarchs control the big chunks of economy, media and have a lot of political influence direct and indirect. What they have right now is some friends of the dictator who own something until dictator allows them.

The closest US has to olugarcha is Bezos and Musk, but they dont have each their own party and a few poket ministers in addition to owm bank and 20ish percent gdp.

US is still too big and rich for this shit

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Post by KerrAvon »

BryantD wrote: post #193
fooqux wrote: post #184

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I think that's over-simplifying it. Some YouTube personality (or whatever we want to call 'online media' that isn't just CNN's website) isn't going to be getting a Whitehouse press pass anytime soon.

Oh, they absolutely are. As Leavitt promised at her first briefing, it’s been opened to: "independent journalists, podcasters, social media influencers, and content creators."

Yes, all of them right-wing chuds.

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Post by cwillu »

hopelite wrote: post #189
cwillu wrote: post #172

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The machine works in the aggregate, and so does the harm. Lets not pretend that all will be well if I just avoid the propoganda myself.

That makes no logical sense. So if I give up my “entertainment” subscriptions because the execs need their bonuses and drive the prices up to compensate for the penalty, causing me to think about how to spend quality time with my family paying games, reading books, and doing activities; is equally harmful as if I can’t but groceries in my town because the grocery store was closed?

I most certainly did not imply that cancelling subscriptions is harmful; I think you read something I did not write.

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Post by jshier »

softwaredoug wrote: post #141
Spivak wrote: post #65

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I mean it's not even politics in the way most people think about it—like this is just blatant corruption. Trump moved in and said this is my swamp. We're not even gonna get a good investigative journalism podcast about the corruption because it's just right there in front of you. There's not much to uncover.

We need some kind of independent anti-corruption agency, like the one we told Ukraine they had to have to receive aid.

All independent agencies are dead, according to SCOTUS fiat. If we want anything to survive they'll have to be rebuilt, either with an enlarged court that won't strike them down again, or as section 1 agencies that Congress has to power directly (which will also be hugely corrupt). Either that or an amendment that creates a branch that straddles the legislative and executive, to be truly independent.

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Post by actionfromafar »

Muromec wrote: post #202
yibg wrote: post #191

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russia doesnt have oligarchs for 15 years at least, it has the opposite of it. Oligarchs control the big chunks of economy, media and have a lot of political influence direct and indirect. What they have right now is some friends of the dictator who own something until dictator allows them. The closest US has to olugarcha is Bezos and Musk, but they dont have each their own party and a few poket ministers in addition…

I think we are well into uncharted territory. One thing's for sure - here be dragons. I'm sure the US version of oligarchy will come in its unique flavor. Probably people won't even fall out of windows! That mode of "suicide" is maybe distinctly Russian.

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Post by Muromec »

softwaredoug wrote: post #141
Spivak wrote: post #65

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I mean it's not even politics in the way most people think about it—like this is just blatant corruption. Trump moved in and said this is my swamp. We're not even gonna get a good investigative journalism podcast about the corruption because it's just right there in front of you. There's not much to uncover.

We need some kind of independent anti-corruption agency, like the one we told Ukraine they had to have to receive aid.

It wasnt US, it was EU who did that, then gave us visa free travel and a few BN for it. Then monitored the whole thing and imlementation of it.

Anticorruption agency head cant be removed even by parliament vote, not even the executive.

But then again, every governmemt and political person has their taxes published by default

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Post by Muromec »

heurist wrote: post #187
softwaredoug wrote: post #141

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We need some kind of independent anti-corruption agency, like the one we told Ukraine they had to have to receive aid.

Didn't that anti-corruption agency end up being corrupt too? Hard to follow all this stuff.

Nah, they are fine. They ate head of presidents office alive last week.

Add: it's also not one anticorruption agency, but the whole bunch of them -- law enforcement one (think of FBI, but investigating corruption in government), special prosecutors office, another agency monitoring assets of anyone close enough to government (including immigration officers on a country level) and their family and a whole separate court with judges vetted by independent panel.

It's elections of Doge of Venice level of indirection.

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Post by KerrAvon »

VanTheBrand wrote: post #161
WorldMaker wrote: post #127

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Right. Also the weird part of the Skydance Lasseter drama is not just that is happened once, there, but that it happened at nearly the same time but worse at Annapurna. Annapurna games division that had done so well last decade got purged by rehiring someone to oversee it who had been fired the first time for the "overly affectionate" types of problems just before Annapurna's "Golden Age" and was hired as much to bet…

David Ellison was an intern at Pixar in college and has a personal relationship with Lasseter. Annapurna games was under his sister and has no management connection to Skydance. I guess if there is any common denominator it’s a familial default to loyalty vs fear of public perception? Not the worst trait in the world despite leading to this outcome. Also to be fair Lasseter’s “serial harassment” (while real and I’m n…

Do a quick web search for "lasseter harassment" before posting stuff about it, maybe?

Topmost link on DDG starts with:

"John Lasseter was accused by multiple former employees and reports of a pattern of unwanted sexualized behavior at Pixar and Disney Animation, including persistent unwelcome touching, kisses, and leering that made staff uncomfortable"

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Post by Muromec »

actionfromafar wrote: post #206
Muromec wrote: post #202

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russia doesnt have oligarchs for 15 years at least, it has the opposite of it. Oligarchs control the big chunks of economy, media and have a lot of political influence direct and indirect. What they have right now is some friends of the dictator who own something until dictator allows them. The closest US has to olugarcha is Bezos and Musk, but they dont have each their own party and a few poket ministers in addition…

I think we are well into uncharted territory. One thing's for sure - here be dragons. I'm sure the US version of oligarchy will come in its unique flavor. Probably people won't even fall out of windows! That mode of "suicide" is maybe distinctly Russian.

I don't want to disappoint, but you won't get oligarchy. You will get dictatorship and war.
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