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Ghostty is now non-profit

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Post by throwaway2037 »

cholantesh wrote: post #186
mindcrash wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a little tongue-in-cheek, but as you can see elsewhere in this discussion thread he mentions this himself on his own X account: "get asked the same about terminals all the time. “How will you turn this into a business? What’s the monetization strategy?” The monetization strategy is that my bank account has 3 commas mate." https://x.com/mitchellh/status/1964785527741427940 Take a good guess where the three commas…

I didn't think it was possible for anyone to express this thought more obnoxiously than DHH but here we are.

Is DHH (David Heinemeier Hansson) worth 100M USD? Google results say he is worth about 50M USD... so "only" two commas.

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Post by AndyKelley »

shevy-java wrote: post #142

Can someone translate this for me? I understand he explained the rationale. I am not sure I understood it though. The biggest question I have right now is: why does it matter that a terminal is a non-profit? I think I am missing some pieces of the puzzle right now.

Imagine you have a thriving, successful open source project with many users. Eventually, you want to move on to other things, but you don't want the project to die, or to be absorbed into AWS. Furthermore, you have a bunch of contributors who could really use financial support in order to sustain their efforts. What's your strategy?

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Post by charcircuit »

lillecarl wrote: post #167
charcircuit wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The monetization strategy is that my bank account has 3 commas mate." Having money doesn't mean that you'll have the motivation to continue working on something for free forever.

Free work is the most rewarding work on every metric but monetization in my experience, and when you hit road bumps you can pay your way out of it to keep going. Sounds like the literal dream

There are a ton of different projects one can devote free work to. Eventually one will get bored and want to change things up.

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Post by DiggyJohnson »

citizenpaul wrote: post #127
torben-friis wrote: post #43

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This community sounds amazing, is there anything similar for adults rather than teens? The “understanding through building” mentality is something I never got to experience as a group, the obvious answer is open source and the like but I wonder if there’s something more learning oriented.

I know I'm jaded but anytime I see a business situation and they specifically say you must be a MINOR to work with them... I get kinda suspicious. >Yes, I'm a teenager ,18 and under So not actually a teenager but a minor is what they mean and use what I would call deceptive language around it. But why?....

You already made the point but yea that’s overly jaded to a significant degree

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Post by chrismorgan »

simonw wrote: post #2

I wasn't aware of Hack Club before and wow, their fiscal sponsorship program is enormous: https://hackclub.com/fiscal-sponsorship/directory/ - looks like they cover more than 2,500 organizations! The Python Software Foundation acts as a fiscal sponsor for a much smaller set of orgs (20 listed on https://www.python.org/psf/fiscal-sponsorees/ ) and it keeps our accounting team pretty busy just looking after those. Hack…

> their fiscal sponsorship program is enormous: https://hackclub.com/fiscal-sponsorship/directory/

Ouch, that is enormous. They forgot to handle images properly, so they’re serving ginormous images in inefficient formats instead of scaled thumbnails in efficient formats—just the first page transfers more than 40MB, and the second page is just as bad, and the third significantly worse. You get things like 11827×13107 “17230 Aluminium Falcons” logo being rendered at 64px high. (I’m surprised that one’s under 9MB.) Across pages 1–3, it’s averaging 1MB per item, which if it continues all the way to page 53 would exceed 2.5GB. Done properly, I’d expect most to be under 10KB, with a few up as high as 50KB, staying well under 1MB per page, and comfortably under 50MB for all 53 pages. It’d load faster and be cheaper to serve too.

(I know this isn’t what you meant, but it loaded so slowly that I looked, and that’s easily big enough to cause problems for some users.)

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Post by yalok »

kyrra wrote: post #181
jarjoura wrote: post #165

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"no conflict of interest" is basically meaningless if your day job is writing software. These clauses you sign are quite broad in what that scope of conflict could be. Every company I've worked for has had very explicit rules that say, you must get written permission from someone at some director or VP level sign off on your "side project," open source or not. You might want to check your company guidelines around th…

Side projects that aren't a conflict of interest when working at Google is rather limiting. Likely less so for small companies.

Not really, in my personal experience and per my friends, most of big companies are pretty lenient about it, except for Apple.

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Post by stephenr »

Oh good. Thank fuck that one of the dozens if not hundreds of terminal emulators isn't going to be a "rug pull".

It's a completely fucked situation when it happens to fairly unique/obscure software like say Terraform or Packer or Vagrant.

But if it happened to some software that's so common it's literally competing against built in apps on every desktop OS, I just don't know what I'd ever do

/s for anyone who needs it.

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Post by ceocoder »

catlover76 wrote: post #124
arjie wrote: post #69

Mitchell Hashimoto is a real programmer in the old vein. It's lovely to see him succeed. Ghostty is fantastic to use. There was a devtools blackhole era once where if you got in that business you were just giving things away and never got to reap the rewards. Then there was this era of founders who figured out how to make it sticky and capture value in a Pareto-optimal way. Love to see it.

I always found the fact that he named a company after himself to be pretty off-putting, personally Also, didn't said company piss people off in some way that led to Open Tofu being created?

Ferrari, McLaren, Pagani, Lamborghini, Tata, Honda, Toyota, Wal-Mart, Zuora (named after the two founders), Garmin (also named after the two founders).

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Post by Barbing »

chrismorgan wrote: post #205
simonw wrote: post #2

I wasn't aware of Hack Club before and wow, their fiscal sponsorship program is enormous: https://hackclub.com/fiscal-sponsorship/directory/ - looks like they cover more than 2,500 organizations! The Python Software Foundation acts as a fiscal sponsor for a much smaller set of orgs (20 listed on https://www.python.org/psf/fiscal-sponsorees/ ) and it keeps our accounting team pretty busy just looking after those. Hack…

> their fiscal sponsorship program is enormous: https://hackclub.com/fiscal-sponsorship/directory/ Ouch, that is enormous. They forgot to handle images properly, so they’re serving ginormous images in inefficient formats instead of scaled thumbnails in efficient formats—just the first page transfers more than 40MB, and the second page is just as bad, and the third significantly worse. You get things like 11827×13107…

Just let them know (admittedly not through a previously known reliable channel FYI, I’m a stranger)

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Post by abnercoimbre »

MrChoke wrote: post #195
abnercoimbre wrote: post #65

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Self-plug: consider Handmade Cities. We have a simple meetups [0] page if you decide you appreciate our ethos. Hopefully we have an active meetup location near you? In any case, good luck on finding the right community! [0] https://handmadecities.com/meetups

My city is on the list but when I submit I get a 404

Which one is this? Las Vegas? If you don’t wish to reveal it here shoot an email so we can fix it: support at handmadecities dot com
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