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Netflix kills casting from its mobile app to most modern TVs

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Re: Netflix kills casting from its mobile app to most modern TVs

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Post by expedition32 »

listenallyall wrote: post #184
chihuahua wrote: post #143

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It's interesting to hear your perspective, but I totally disagree about Cable TV. It's the worst paid service I've ever seen. 100+ channels of almost pure garbage that insults my intelligence at every turn. 1/3 of the time was ads, and of the remaining 2/3, much was taken up by "when we return..." and "before the break...". Plus most of the content was targeted towards morons. These days, you'd have to pay me $20+ pe…

Many of the most popular streaming shows were originally aired on broadcast TV (which most people watched via cable) - The Office, Friends, West Wing, Big Bang Theory, etc. Or originally for cable channels - Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, Suits, etc. Netflix has produced a few decent shows but most of its stuff is "targeted towards morons" or "pure garbage that insults my intelligence" - Love is Blind, Is it Cake. Comme…

You do know that people outside America had to buy very expensive DVD box sets to watch those shows?

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Post by fragmede »

expedition32 wrote: post #201
listenallyall wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many of the most popular streaming shows were originally aired on broadcast TV (which most people watched via cable) - The Office, Friends, West Wing, Big Bang Theory, etc. Or originally for cable channels - Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, Suits, etc. Netflix has produced a few decent shows but most of its stuff is "targeted towards morons" or "pure garbage that insults my intelligence" - Love is Blind, Is it Cake. Comme…

You do know that people outside America had to buy very expensive DVD box sets to watch those shows?

Wait, hold on, are you telling me that the Pirate Bay only existed on the American Internet back then, too? Man, I'm so glad we're not in those times anymore.

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Post by fragmede »

Terretta wrote: post #147
ffsm8 wrote: post #130

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I wish there was a service like steam for videos: not subscription but high confidence purchase of video content available "forever" (even if they remove it from the purchasing options, license would remain). Personally I watch so little tv/movies that any subscription was always overpaying. I still did it for a while, because the price wasn't high enough to push me to seek out other options. I'm no longer subbing an…

> I wish there was a service like steam for videos: not subscription but high confidence purchase of video content available "forever" (even if they remove it from the purchasing options, license would remain). In general, iTunes content purchase licenses are owned in perpetuity. You do need to download the bits and have the files on hand, as (a) Apple may lose the right to re-deliver the bits to you, or (b) you may…

Or, just buy it on any platform and then feel less bad about pirating it anyway.

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Post by fingerlocks »

jandrese wrote: post #158
Rebelgecko wrote: post #105

A big part of why marketplaces like Netflix and Steam got so popular is because they provided a low-friction way to consume that was even easier than piracy. It seems like the pendulum is starting to swing in the other direction now- it's often easier to copyright infringe than to watch something the legit way, even if you pay for a subscription that grants you access. Great example of something that's illegal but no…

This is no joke. I tried watching the latest episode of Plur1bus on Apple TV+ on my laptop and here's the steps I went through: 1. Start chrome, navigate to tv.apple.com, click on the #1 show of the day (no problem) 2. The site tells me I can sign up for the TV service that I already have instead of offering a play button. 3. I click on the "sign up" which pauses for 10 seconds then tells me I'm already subscribed wh…

Did you know that if you have any Apple hardware, like anything at all with a screen, this is a 0-step process? You’re already signed into the device, and the AppleTV.app is pre-installed. It’s one tap.

I have sympathy for you, that sounds hellish. But. You are aware that Apple has never been in the web content business, right? And I’ve never heard of anyone watching Apple TV from a browser. I didn’t even know that was possible. I thought the channel existed as a means to sell Apple hardware, because it does work beautifully on their devices

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Post by sharperguy »

paxys wrote: post #53

I remember the time when smart homes used to feature in sci-fi literature and concept videos. Being able to walk around your house while having everything seamlessly synced and tailored to your preferences was clearly the future. TV, movies and music automatically playing in whatever room your enter. Files and all other data seamlessly synced between all your devices. Not having to think about how to make the tech wo…

Abolishing copyright and patent law would pretty much solve this.

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Post by AbstractH24 »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #105

A big part of why marketplaces like Netflix and Steam got so popular is because they provided a low-friction way to consume that was even easier than piracy. It seems like the pendulum is starting to swing in the other direction now- it's often easier to copyright infringe than to watch something the legit way, even if you pay for a subscription that grants you access. Great example of something that's illegal but no…

What makes sense in growth-mode and profit-mode are not the same

We are seeing FAANG-era companies switch from one to the other increasingly aggressively in the post ZERP era.

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Post by anonymars »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #193
anonymars wrote: post #86

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Sorry, it's not. Latest example, Canon's phone app for its cameras, for GPS tagging, remote shutter, transfer to phone, didn't require any Internet access, but now they changed it to require an online login for no reason. Oh and that login only works with chrome installed. So miss me with this caveat emptor libertarian fantasy land ("openly lies about its specs" is the buyer's fault?!)

You'll know not to buy anything from Canon next time, right?

Will that keep me from getting bait-and-switched again?

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Post by threetonesun »

mort96 wrote: post #140
threetonesun wrote: post #94

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You can add any applications to Steam's Big Picture mode and the UI is relatively couch friendly. Yes, you could install Steam on any distro and do this but SteamOS is pretty nice out of the box if you want a TV friendly solution.

Steam Big Picture is very couch friendly, if you're using a game pad and what you're launching supports a game pad. That's why it works for a couch gaming PC. Firefox has pretty bad gamepad support last I checked.

It's been a while since I've had to customize it much but I believe the Steam overlay allows you to map controller inputs to anything, uniquely for every given app you run through it.

That said, at some point I think yes, you just get a bluetooth mouse/keyboard to go with it.

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Post by christoff12 »

expedition32 wrote: post #200
Rebelgecko wrote: post #105

A big part of why marketplaces like Netflix and Steam got so popular is because they provided a low-friction way to consume that was even easier than piracy. It seems like the pendulum is starting to swing in the other direction now- it's often easier to copyright infringe than to watch something the legit way, even if you pay for a subscription that grants you access. Great example of something that's illegal but no…

I am sure Netflix has the numbers. Most people watch through the app that is pre installed on the TV. There's even an icon on your remote. How much easier do you want it to be?

Easy enough to cast from my phone when I'm not in front of my own TV; e.g. at an airbnb.

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Post by segmondy »

m463 wrote: post #175
lunias wrote: post #22

I don't understand Netflix's decision, but I'm long past caring about things like this. I've had PCs hooked up to all of my televisions for the past 15+ years because of how limiting and frustrating using any other device to play media from can be.

> I don't understand Netflix's decision seems pretty obvious to me: netflix wants to charge separately for mobile device vs television. if you "cast" you don't need two subscriptions/account options.

college students sign into their friend's phone, then their friends can cast on the TV. this is about stopping sharing of accounts
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