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The Nerd Reich – Silicon Valley Fascism and the War on Democracy

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Re: The Nerd Reich – Silicon Valley Fascism and the War on Democracy

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>deny that their purpose is of oppression... A lot of the uber-nerds are just regular nerds who got lucky, not part of some evil genius cabal. By all means keep an eye on them but I think for the most part they are regular people.

Is there anything 'regular' about walking onto stage wearing a cap and sunglasses and then brandishing a chainsaw as a 'symbolic' gesture (at anything other than a chainsaw conference)?

I'd make an exception for Musk.

Re: The Nerd Reich – Silicon Valley Fascism and the War on Democracy

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I know it's fashionable to say that democracy itself leads to these outcomes that destroy democracy. I think Arendt was right about self-colonization and overproduction of elites being the main thing that leads to totalitarianism. There wouldn't even be such a thing as a silicon valley billionaire if the United States wasn't the most wildly successful political entity for the past 2000 years. Power corrupts, but that…

> There wouldn't even be such a thing as a silicon valley billionaire if the United States wasn't the most wildly successful political entity for the past 2000 years.

I don’t know that I would position the USA in this way.

Different metrics lead to different “winners”:

Longevity: Imperial China

Institutional legacy: Rome

Global reach: British Empire

Scientific/cultural transmission: Islamic Caliphates

Modern dominance: United States

Another lens:

* Rome & China = stability, governance, internal cohesion.

* Britain & the US = networks, capital markets, technology leverage.

* Caliphates = knowledge platforms, cosmopolitan integration.

Re: The Nerd Reich – Silicon Valley Fascism and the War on Democracy

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My cousin suddenly has been very captured and obsessed by an area of opinion I didn’t have a name for, fixed money supply, all inflation inherently bad, Elon Musk is badly treated, longer government terms (which sounds reasonable initially until you actually think about just having LESS democracy), no minimum wage. After some research it’s definitely coming from influencers linked to the SV techno feudalists - it’s j…

Sounds loosely libertarian, but the longer terms one is new. Its long appealed to technical folks because of its simplicity and ability to address a wide swath of policy issues.

It took me a long time to break myself out of it. I think key was getting into the deep details of passing actual policies that would have enough popular support to be sustainable, to realize its ultimately just naive/simplistic thinking, thats another impractical ideology under the hood, dressed up as something more meaningful.

Re: The Nerd Reich – Silicon Valley Fascism and the War on Democracy

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It seems nicer than the Woke Reich

Say what you want about "woke" (assuming you can define it), but its worst excesses were curbed by democratic elections. What's the endgame of a movement that seeks to discredit, overturn, and functionally control elections?

Do you mean that the things like annulling the elections when the "wrong" candidate won [1] or barring the opposition candidates from running [2],[3] are not the worst excesses?

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Romanian_presidential_ele...

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominique_Strauss-Kahn

3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Le_Pen

Re: The Nerd Reich – Silicon Valley Fascism and the War on Democracy

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> a lot of us nerds value physical strength, it's 2025, we're not mouthbreathers anymore. Sure, I don't disagree. I just put that in to prevent people from claiming he was a jock now because of that (which would clearly be absurd).

The nerd/jock dichotomy is at best loosely pointing at some genuine clusters of interests and predilections that exist among people in the world, and is more often taking a set of tropes from 80s Hollywood movies about high school and using them to try to explain how real people in the world are today, which is stupid. (Who wrote all those 80s movies? Bookworms ! Who acted in them? Theater kids !)

The jocks at my school (Championship Winners) were also simultaneously the smartest kids at it. Most went to Ivy Leagues on academic scholarships. I know a few of them were the first engineers on several well known unicorns.

Re: The Nerd Reich – Silicon Valley Fascism and the War on Democracy

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post #138

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Except that he didn't invent any of it. Just a savvy investor, and as far as I understand, hasn't really worked on any of it. His contributions were rants until he just took ketamine. His work was making a yelp clone.

He invented the very successful hyperloop.

I know it’s sarcasm but he didn’t event invent it… just promoted it to undermine high speed rails

Re: The Nerd Reich – Silicon Valley Fascism and the War on Democracy

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I don't know if you will find a time in US history where the press was accurate, honest, and truthful. I agree with GP that a primary missing feature is a principled public - without principles people swing wildly in opinion depending on the topic and popular rhetoric. I see this with much of my own family. They mostly consider themselves conservatives and Republicans of the small government and balanced budget era.…

> I don't know if you will find a time in US history where the press was accurate, honest, and truthful. 1) Spare us the US defaultism! 2) If we are going to make this conversation about the USA, didn't US broadcast media have a 'fairness doctrine' that was abolished some years back? Hence the growth in outlets providing heavily biased dishonest news on broadcast media? I suggest this has driven much of the popular r…

The topic is Silicon Valley fascism, this isn't the crusade to fight USA defaultism.

Re: The Nerd Reich – Silicon Valley Fascism and the War on Democracy

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Anything that is a millimeter to the left in US politics, which happens to still be considered right in the rest of the world, gets immediately coined as left wing activists.

This may have been true in the 80's but it is no longer the case. Left wing politics and whatever nutty ideas this faction produces is now more extreme than its counterpart in Europe. It is as if US lefties have taken the 'everything is bigger in the USA' mantra and applied it to their utopian ideologies. State-run grocery stores? The whole 'DEI/DIE' bureaucra[c/z]y? The aggressive way in which gender ideology is being forced upon those too young to realise they're being bamboozled? Only in the U.S.A...

Re: The Nerd Reich – Silicon Valley Fascism and the War on Democracy

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> maybe you can count Zuckerberg I think that you definitely need to count him. He's always been a massive nerd, his attempts to bulk up and become a MMA competitor notwithstanding.

>his attempts to bulk up and become a MMA competitor notwithstanding a lot of us nerds value physical strength, it's 2025, we're not mouthbreathers anymore.

I couldn't care less about muscles but I do go to the gym 3 times a week.

My dad died from a heart attack in his fourties and my mom only has 30% lung capacity left thanks to smoking.

Your health always catches up with you and it's better to prevent trouble.

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