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Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by RamblingCTO »

franga2000 wrote: post #196
RamblingCTO wrote: post #195

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Yes, and? I quoted that part. But why do I want a full backend stack running via docker on my machine for this? That sucks.

What exactly sucks about it? If it's integrated well enough, why do you care? If anything, it's nice to know it's sandboxed by default. The installer could pull the images, create the stack and run migrations, then shut down. The app could then up the stack, show a loading screen that would likely be shorter than any Adobe program, then open a webview. When the last window is closed, down the stack. You wouldn't be a…

Not sure if your serious? I don't want a fucking SaaS stack running on my macbook for a small graphics tool? It's about the resource, the power, the battery, the heat, the CPU I care about. I don't want that.

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by VerifiedReports »

IshKebab wrote: post #189
VerifiedReports wrote: post #181

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"And user criticism of bugs isn't somehow invalidated just because the users didn't go to the sometimes very large effort to report bugs." Yes, it is.

No it isn't.

Yeah, just let everyone else do the work while you sit back and gripe.

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by stuaxo »

supermatt wrote: post #105
ogrisel wrote: post #102

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I think it would help to open an issue on github making explicit the following three points explicit in the report: - steps to reproduce from scratch; - what you expected to happen; - what you actually observed (include the screenshot or video capture in addition to a textual description). Otherwise, you might risk your report being ignored due to a silent misunderstanding about the mismatch between your expectations…

At the time i wasn't sure if it was PEBCAK, which is why i started a discussion in the forums. As there were no replies, i received no notifications, and so I forgot all about it. If anyone is interested in opening a bug report you can see the issue here: https://imgur.com/a/hZ1ja9o

Not being able view imgur in the UK is a pain.

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by franga2000 »

RamblingCTO wrote: post #201
franga2000 wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What exactly sucks about it? If it's integrated well enough, why do you care? If anything, it's nice to know it's sandboxed by default. The installer could pull the images, create the stack and run migrations, then shut down. The app could then up the stack, show a loading screen that would likely be shorter than any Adobe program, then open a webview. When the last window is closed, down the stack. You wouldn't be a…

Not sure if your serious? I don't want a fucking SaaS stack running on my macbook for a small graphics tool? It's about the resource, the power, the battery, the heat, the CPU I care about. I don't want that.

What SaaS stack? The backend and frontend are just doing their job, so they're about as heavy as they would be if it was, let's say, an electron app, and the only other services are minio (a glorified web server) and Postgres, which a "normal" app would probably replace with sqlite and save a hundred or two megabytes of RAM. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if using Postgres was more resource efficient than having your engineers come up with a custom ad-hoc datastore.

All in all, the overhead would probably be equal to two tabs in Chrome.

And calling it a "small graphics tool" is just nonsense. If you're doing UI/UX design, this is THE thing you spend your time in. It's like Premiere for a video editor or AutoCAD for an engineer. If it takes 30 seconds to load and eats half your system memory, who cares, it's what you bought the computer for.

Besides a specific subset of programmers that only use Vim or Emacs, every other professional is used to giving whatever tool they're using to do their job all the resources their computer has. You don't see video editors complaining Davinci Resolve runs a whole PostgreSQL instance in the background.

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by supermatt »

supermatt wrote: post #199
ErroneousBosh wrote: post #188

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Doesn't work in Austria, doesn't work from the UK, doesn't work from Finland.

I am physically in the EU and its working for me. I just checked using nordVPN for Austria and Finland and it's working there too, so maybe you have some other issue going on? I am assuming you are in the UK, as Imgur are specifically blocking the UK: https://help.imgur.com/hc/en-us/articles/41592665292443-Imgu... Imgur isn't my site, and I don't vote in the UK, so Im not sure how you expect me to resolve that.

This might help you: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46081188

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by explodes »

givemeethekeys wrote: post #15

With the integration of AI, people are using Figma for more than just design. A recent use-case that a friend was gushing about: - Input notes, data into Figma and ask its AI to summarize it into presentation worthy slides with built-in games to keep meeting members engaged, and host them to a website.

From a comment above, this should be, at least partially, doable with MCP: https://github.com/penpot/penpot-mcp

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by zonghao »

zonghao wrote: post #10
Myzel394 wrote: post #4

I tried to self host penpot a few months ago but the app would crash after a few minutes and not properly show the canvases. So a no for me

They seem to update very frequently; I don't know if it still crashes now — I'm planning to try it myself.

I self-hosted Penpot, and during use I also encountered crashes — but it was my browser that crashed. I’m not sure what caused it (because I was forced to close the page).

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by RamblingCTO »

franga2000 wrote: post #204
RamblingCTO wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if your serious? I don't want a fucking SaaS stack running on my macbook for a small graphics tool? It's about the resource, the power, the battery, the heat, the CPU I care about. I don't want that.

What SaaS stack? The backend and frontend are just doing their job, so they're about as heavy as they would be if it was, let's say, an electron app, and the only other services are minio (a glorified web server) and Postgres, which a "normal" app would probably replace with sqlite and save a hundred or two megabytes of RAM. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if using Postgres was more resource efficient than having your…

Good that it works for you. I don't care about it enough to run a bunch of docker images (which need docker to run) which have a bigger impact on performance than two chrome tabs for sure.

davinci resolve doens't need docker. Or any of the other examples you used.

Imagine you're running a local supabase stack, zed, chrome and then try to spawn this thing on a regular laptop. It's not about postgres natively.

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by franga2000 »

RamblingCTO wrote: post #208
franga2000 wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What SaaS stack? The backend and frontend are just doing their job, so they're about as heavy as they would be if it was, let's say, an electron app, and the only other services are minio (a glorified web server) and Postgres, which a "normal" app would probably replace with sqlite and save a hundred or two megabytes of RAM. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if using Postgres was more resource efficient than having your…

Good that it works for you. I don't care about it enough to run a bunch of docker images (which need docker to run) which have a bigger impact on performance than two chrome tabs for sure. davinci resolve doens't need docker. Or any of the other examples you used. Imagine you're running a local supabase stack, zed, chrome and then try to spawn this thing on a regular laptop. It's not about postgres natively.

> davinci resolve doens't need docker. Or any of the other examples you used.

You're really focusing on the docker part, huh? You know containers are just a four namespaces in a trenchcoat, right? They don't actuall, have meaningful performance overhead... The only waste is some disk space.

Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma

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Post by supercaperucita »

8organicbits wrote: post #8
tyleo wrote: post #5

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While I agree, I'm not sure it's a team, it looks like mostly one dude :)

I'm seeing several contributors: https://github.com/penpot/penpot/graphs/contributors

hi! Clara from Penpot here :) we're a startup with around 44 employees (https://kaleidos.net/kaleiders) ;)
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