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Windows GUI – Good, Bad and Pretty Ugly (2023)

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Re: Windows GUI – Good, Bad and Pretty Ugly (2023)

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I care that it's made with React/React Native or other garbage web frameworks. By definition adding layers between native C/C++ Native Win32 will make it slower and use more RAM. Stop justifying laziness and mediocrity. Microsoft does this just so they can hire cheap javascript monkeys out of colleges. AKA people who shouldn't be writing code and the reason a chat application now uses 1GB of RAM and nobody seems to c…

First off, this claim that the start menu is written largely with web frameworks isn’t even verified: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44124688 It is supposedly still mostly Windows native XAML. Allegedly, even the components that use react are using react native for windows and are therefore not rendering any sort of resource-wasting web view. I wrote my own react native phone app and it’s only a 30MB download.…

I am wasting my time, you are arguing in bad faith. I have installed windows 7 in a VM and everything takes less RAM not just the start menu and for most things it performs much much better. Start menu actually searches my files instantly, not with delay, not presenting web results, not presenting wrong results. It's doing its job.

Task manager opens immediately. Windows Explorer the same.

Those applications and the OS were written by real humans, not by myths. With your terribly bad argument it seems those OSes never happened since it required "extreme difficulty". No, it didn't require Einsteins. It required non-monkey coders.

You say you wrote your own react native phone app and it only takes 30MBs. So what? You forgot the most important part: what does it do? If it's a basic text editor then yes it's extremely bloated garbage.

Re: Windows GUI – Good, Bad and Pretty Ugly (2023)

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One underappreciated thing about Windows 8 is that even if the start menu was ugly and blocked the entire screen, you could press the windows key, immediately start typing, and then press enter to somewhat deterministically pick the top app. This made it feel quite fast. Now on more recent windows editions, I find that I often need to wait for the menu to visually appear before it will accept any keyboard input, and…

> One underappreciated thing about Windows 8 is ... you could press the windows key, immediately start typing, and then press enter to somewhat deterministically pick the top app I agree this is underappreciated but I believe it started in Vista and has worked pretty much the same way ever since, including in Windows 11. I acknowledge that start menu search in general is more bloated now and thus feels less snappy on…

On fast machines the latency is low enough I don’t complain… but the point about search results shifting is very much a problem. Often times searching a builtin windows feature will fail to show the correct result without some weird switching around of the wording. E.g try searching for “turn windows features on or off”.

Re: Windows GUI – Good, Bad and Pretty Ugly (2023)

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I still consider Windows 2000's UI to be the peak of computer interfaces and nothing else has come close to its effectiveness and clarity for day to day work.

> I still consider Windows 2000's UI to be the peak of computer interfaces

Only on Windows.

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