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Pebble, Rebble, and a path forward

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Re: Pebble, Rebble, and a path forward

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Post by lenkite »

827a wrote: post #44

The amount of internet drama a smartwatch that stopped being produced ten years ago generates even to this day is truly incredible. Nothing that's happening here is so important as to make enemies, and the fact that Core Devices even wants to use the open source app store and is willing to pay for it should have been an immediate "Yes, that's incredible, lets make it work" from Rebble. So what if they get bought by F…

> So what if they get bought by Fitbit or go closed source? Rebble will just be back to where they were before

How can they be back to where they are if it goes closed source ?

Re: Pebble, Rebble, and a path forward

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Post by tobi_bsf »

My goodness, these people are fighting as if it were about controlling the next Apple App Store. These are just a few watch faces for a watch that only a few thousand people will ever use—how can they lose perspective like that?

Re: Pebble, Rebble, and a path forward

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Post by nar001 »

gmarull wrote: post #98

Hi there, Gerard here. I work for Core as a firmware engineer, happy to answer questions as well. I personally understand Rebble fears, for example when we forked and kept development under Core Github. However, I think we tried to be as transparent as possible and explained the reasons behind. While Liam (ex-Pebble) did an excellent job integrating NimBLE, it is also true that we also offered to do the work. However…

Not firmware, but is there any chance Core would release the app as open source too? It's weird to have the library open, yet the app itself closed source, especially with how bare bones it is, it could be a nice gesture of good faith, show it's not about being "closed" for example

Re: Pebble, Rebble, and a path forward

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Post by neumann »

calgoo wrote: post #198
pokoleo wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They sent an email a few minutes after I posted, saying that their fulfillment centre dropped the ball and they're escalating internally. I guess complaining on HN worked. Hope they can figure out the dispute with Rebble. Maybe they end up hosting apps on a package manager and create some binding contract?

There are also a bunch of cancelled order right now, so maybe they suddenly had a surplus of available devices...

Yeah. I bought a black duo out of nostalgia and wanting pebble to succeed, but not interested in the time and realized I don't love them enough to want to wear a white one. Fickle me, I guess.

Re: Pebble, Rebble, and a path forward

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Post by realo »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #100
fphhotchips wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing I'm confused about in this whole thing is what makes Rebble think they have a right to the data in the first place? They scraped it! "We don't like you scraping the data we scraped" doesn't hold water for me, whether Eric retained it or not.

Pebble threw it away, Rebble did not, and Core is a newcomer whith no right to anything.

Core is making new, compatible hardware, at scale, not as a hobby.

We can buy that hardware from Core, today.

That gives them quite a few rights.

Re: Pebble, Rebble, and a path forward

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Post by 4ggr0 »

mmastrac wrote: post #189
apparent wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How can you trust someone who's willing to violate your privacy like that? Who's to say he didn't have permission to post from his conversation partner? He doesn't need permission from the people he's talking about (just like we don't need his permission to post about him here).

> Who's to say https://www.reddit.com/r/pebble/comments/1p0huk5/comment/npj...

wow, that puts a pretty different light on Eric's blogpost, at least for me. putting screenshots of private messages in a public blogpost without asking the person is SUCH a HUGE dickmove.

still happily waiting for my Core-Pebble to arrive, but i am getting so sick of people in general.

Re: Pebble, Rebble, and a path forward

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Post by chias »

tomaskafka wrote: post #42
Defletter wrote: post #20

This is a bit of a what-if, but I had a Pebble watch back then and was considering trying to make an app for it. The idea that, if I had succeeded and published the app, that Rebble would be claiming ownership over my binary and threatening legal action against the original Pebble creator, to be really quite ridiculous and affronting.

I am one of the developers who did make Pebble apps - here's a screenshot with the Pebble version of Weathergraph on Eric's watch: https://x.com/weathergraph/status/1959253197664469246 Today is the day I found out Rebble is claiming the ownership of my app's binaries. All I can say is that they don't have it.

Not really relevant to the conversation, but:

I stumbled across your watchface recently and absolutely love it. It's remarkable how much information density you've achieved while still maintaining "at a glance" clarity. Thank you for the work you put into it!

Re: Pebble, Rebble, and a path forward

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Post by 4ggr0 »

tobi_bsf wrote: post #202

My goodness, these people are fighting as if it were about controlling the next Apple App Store. These are just a few watch faces for a watch that only a few thousand people will ever use—how can they lose perspective like that?

some humans are just hungry for power and walled gardens, no matter if it's just power over one person sitting on a square meter patch of grass.

Re: Pebble, Rebble, and a path forward

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Post by Brian_K_White »

realo wrote: post #205
Brian_K_White wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pebble threw it away, Rebble did not, and Core is a newcomer whith no right to anything.

Core is making new, compatible hardware, at scale, not as a hobby. We can buy that hardware from Core, today. That gives them quite a few rights.

What? Absurd. It gives them the right to nothing at all. They can make an app store themselves any time they want.

Re: Pebble, Rebble, and a path forward

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Post by postexitus »

827a wrote: post #44

The amount of internet drama a smartwatch that stopped being produced ten years ago generates even to this day is truly incredible. Nothing that's happening here is so important as to make enemies, and the fact that Core Devices even wants to use the open source app store and is willing to pay for it should have been an immediate "Yes, that's incredible, lets make it work" from Rebble. So what if they get bought by F…

Reminds me of Genesi / Hyperion wars in late Amiga days.
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