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Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by hn_acc1 »

GuinansEyebrows wrote: post #183
qwerpy wrote: post #96

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One man’s abomination is another man’s ideal family car :) There is no other consumer car that can self-drive from start to finish for an entire trip. That alone will keep me on Tesla until the others catch up. Crash tests have shown that it’s excellent at protecting its occupants, which matters to me as a father of two. The cyberpunk aesthetic, whole home battery backup, and large secured truck bed are just icing on…

> The cyberpunk aesthetic the dystopian, authoritarian, hypercapitalist hellscape aesthetic is icing on the cake for a family vehicle?

As is the "likely to hit others while self-driving"..

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by testing22321 »

kube-system wrote: post #59
fragmede wrote: post #46

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You can't. You don't want an old, non-electric one (presumably), so you can't use that loophole to register one. So unless you're the CEO of Ford (who has all the connections in the world), you won't be able to bring it in and register it, and depending on the state, you have to register it, even if it's not operating on public lands. I will pay $5k on top of the $8k base price and $8k for 100% tarrif, for a total of…

There are import exceptions for testing purposes which I would imagine is how Ford is able to bring one over.

That’s right. They’re only allowed to drive it for a limited time in limited ways. All automakers have this ability.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by hn_acc1 »

qwerpy wrote: post #191
GuinansEyebrows wrote: post #183

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> The cyberpunk aesthetic the dystopian, authoritarian, hypercapitalist hellscape aesthetic is icing on the cake for a family vehicle?

That's a lot of your own judgment you've layered on top of it. For a more joyful interpretation of cybertruck aesthetics, do a image search for "cybertruck trick or treat". I volunteered to provide my truck for my kid's school Halloween party and decorated it to look like the chomp chomp monster from Mario. Kids loved it. (sure it's not cyberpunk but it's an example of how the look can be used for family friendly inn…

Did you have to put protective tape over the edges? How did you avoid kids getting cut?

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by fragmede »

idop wrote: post #83
guywithahat wrote: post #67

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I've never seen a cybertruck with a missing trim piece, and there are usually a few at my local super charger. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it's certainly not some ongoing common issue like you're implying

Call the NHTSA and tell them to cancel the recall then.

The recall for a dealer-installed light bar that gets glued onto the glass windshield isn't the same as panels falling off, yes.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by GuinansEyebrows »

qwerpy wrote: post #191
GuinansEyebrows wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The cyberpunk aesthetic the dystopian, authoritarian, hypercapitalist hellscape aesthetic is icing on the cake for a family vehicle?

That's a lot of your own judgment you've layered on top of it. For a more joyful interpretation of cybertruck aesthetics, do a image search for "cybertruck trick or treat". I volunteered to provide my truck for my kid's school Halloween party and decorated it to look like the chomp chomp monster from Mario. Kids loved it. (sure it's not cyberpunk but it's an example of how the look can be used for family friendly inn…

i dunno. i don't think the aesthetic exists in a vacuum and i certainly am not the first person to use those words to describe it (as a fan of the genre).

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by [deleted] »

testing22321 wrote: post #193
anonporridge wrote: post #186

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Cybertruck is a great case study in how people confuse form for function. In a world where technology is advancing exponentially, aesthetics increasingly offer a poor signal for performance, and only those who obsessively look under the hood and disregard form will see through it all.

Yep. There were endless articles and hundreds of comments here about how atrocious the crash safety of the cyber truck must be for occupants. Everyone knew for a fact it had no crumple zone, etc. Then the actual crash testing data comes out…… And crickets. Peoples intuition is very, very wrong.

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Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by iainmerrick »

testing22321 wrote: post #195
fainpul wrote: post #88

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It's not legal in europe.

Neither are many vehicles sold in the US. That doesn’t tell us much.

I’m not sure if you mean to imply that most US vehicles aren’t sold in Europe, but I don’t think that’s the case -- there are plenty of US cars in Europe (including Teslas, although they’re going rapidly out of fashion).

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by hamdingers »

soared wrote: post #137
guitarbill wrote: post #29

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Downvote or not, it's true: > NHTSA conducts frontal, side and rollover tests because these types account for the majority of crashes on America's roadways. > IIHS tests evaluate two aspects of safety: crashworthiness — how well a vehicle protects its occupants in a crash — and crash avoidance and mitigation — technology that can prevent a crash or lessen its severity. > As well as assessing how well cars protect the…

NHTSA outlawed hood ornaments purely for pedestrian safety, so it’s not 100% correct.

One thing for pedestrians in 1968 and nothing since then. I'd say that's four, maybe five nines of correctness.

Re: Tesla Is Recalling Cybertrucks Again

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Post by toast0 »

kube-system wrote: post #59
fragmede wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't. You don't want an old, non-electric one (presumably), so you can't use that loophole to register one. So unless you're the CEO of Ford (who has all the connections in the world), you won't be able to bring it in and register it, and depending on the state, you have to register it, even if it's not operating on public lands. I will pay $5k on top of the $8k base price and $8k for 100% tarrif, for a total of…

There are import exceptions for testing purposes which I would imagine is how Ford is able to bring one over.

Probably the best option is to collude with a nonresident [1]:

> Nonresidents may import a vehicle duty-free for personal use up to (1) one year if the vehicle is imported in conjunction with the owner's arrival. Vehicles imported under this provision that do not conform to U.S. safety and emission standards must be exported within one year and may not be sold in the U.S. There is no exemption or extension of the export requirements.

While the vehicle can't be sold in the US, and must be reexported after a year, there's nothing on this page that says the nonresident can't lend it to a resident for most of the year. If money isn't really a problem, buy overseas, pay a nonresident to arrive in the vehicle, and after a year, export it and sell it and repeat. Nothing on this page suggests the vehicle couldn't leave and re-enter, but that seems like asking for way too much trouble, I wouldn't be surprised if someone at the border is keeping track of VINs. Since BYDs are sold in Mexico, you don't even need to deal with shipping, just drive through the border.

It's tricky with a car that has never been sold in the US, but with something where production for the US market ended, but other markets continue, you end up with things like a 1990s VW beetle with a 1970s title. shhh

[1] https://www.cbp.gov/trade/basic-import-export/importing-car

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