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Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

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Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

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Post by g-mork »

stego-tech wrote: post #156
g-mork wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not so sure, becoming dependent on corporate funding means importing corporate policy. Is it really necessary for a DEI policy being required to appear on ntp.org, or perhaps the sudden advocacy of some proprietary protocol crapware pushed into public use from out of nowhere? That's pretty much what tends to happen Of course the same thing happens in reverse (see recent python.org refusal to accept federal fundin…

Not gonna lie, you had me going in the first sentence and then betrayed your position with: > Is it really necessary for a DEI policy being required to appear…? So ignoring the, well, ignorance of the remainder of your statement, it’s worth pointing out that these entities already publish mission statements, community/contributor guidelines, and a raft of other documentation that governs how they intend to operate as…

Did I trigger you by picking DEI as an example? You can find a million alternatives from e.g. the FirefoxGoogle relationship. No need to start name calling or whatnot

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

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Post by WesolyKubeczek »

exasperaited wrote: post #179
chocalot wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm out of the loop. What's the issue with using a project that ESR contributes to? I am vaguely aware he has some unpopular political beliefs (though exactly what I don't know). Is that it?

It's not the issue of using the project, to my mind. It is not even his beliefs, though many of them are — to my ears and hopefully to most — quite repugnant. It is his attitude, approach, and at various times the kinds of people he attracts. As it goes, I've seen him speak, back in the 90s, CatB era. He was genial enough but he seemed to have a coterie around him of rather less pleasant people. It could just have be…

Less pleasant — in what way?

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

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Post by akerl_ »

mlichvar wrote: post #183
tptacek wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which distributions use ntpsec?

Current Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, RHEL/CentOS (EPEL) have an ntpsec package, but no ntp package. It's not used by default (that's chrony on most of the distributions), but the users can install it and use it.

Thats… not the same thing.

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

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Post by bheadmaster »

Aurornis wrote: post #135
bheadmaster wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Name one company that doesn't depend on NTP.

This donation is for the NTP Foundation for something specific like their website. The big companies who use NTP have their own pools and either use versions of different ntp implantations or their own internal ones. All of these comments assuming cloud providers are using the reference NTP implementation and the public pools have no idea what they’re talking about.

> The big companies who use NTP have their own pools

And which NTP servers are those pools synchronized to?

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

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Post by bheadmaster »

NetMageSCW wrote: post #178
bheadmaster wrote: post #4

It's sad that a project that literally every company in the world depends on is requiring donations to keep working.

It is sad that an unfounded comment like that can be posted so easily with no basis in fact.

Care to elaborate, or do you prefer to just say "nah fam thats cap" in a pretentious manner?

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

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Post by knadh »

We've allocated $60,000 to NTP from FLOSS/fund [1]. It happened in May, but the disbursal is pending owing to paperwork [2]. We hope it'll go through in the next couple of months.

[1] https://floss.fund/projects/2025/

[2] https://floss.fund/blog/second-tranche-2025-anniversary/#wha...

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

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Post by VoidWhisperer »

knadh wrote: post #206

We've allocated $60,000 to NTP from FLOSS/fund [1]. It happened in May, but the disbursal is pending owing to paperwork [2]. We hope it'll go through in the next couple of months. [1] https://floss.fund/projects/2025/ [2] https://floss.fund/blog/second-tranche-2025-anniversary/#wha...

The combination of the moving goalposts for donations (they changed it from $1000 goal to $4000 after hitting their goal[0]) and the fact that they have have a large donation like this pending but simply haven't completed the paperwork kind of rubs me the wrong way a little bit.

[0]: https://web.archive.org/web/20251112110436/https://www.ntp.o...

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

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Post by edm0nd »

jrmg wrote: post #151
Aurornis wrote: post #143

This was submitted with a title that doesn’t match the page and is not even accurste (Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up) is not correct. This donation page is not for the public NTP pool. It’s for the NTP Project organization and their web page. All of the angry comments from people who think NTP will stop working if the donation bar doesn’t get to $1000 are misinformed. Also note that the bar isn’t upda…

You’re right, people are plainly commenting based on the title. The goal has now mysteriously changed to a goal of $4000.

Now it's $8,000

>$4,560 of $8,000 raised

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

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Post by calibas »

calibas wrote: post #153

Some of the comments here seem overly negative and critical. They support billions of devices and are only asking for $4,000 in donations per year.

Never mind, they keep upping the max every time they reach it. Now it's an $11,000 goal...

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

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Post by CamperBob2 »

6c696e7578 wrote: post #195
jrmg wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re right, people are plainly commenting based on the title. The goal has now mysteriously changed to a goal of $4000.

Likely the $3000 was needed to stand up a network that can handle the request load from hacker news.

Now it's $4560 on the way to a goal of $8000.

Great look, guys. You're fooling... somebody, apparently.

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