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In terms of not-yet-shipping not-online vehicles, we already have the Slate. So this looks to be a good compliment, for a moderately-wealthy two car household.
I'm disappointed with the Slate. Knowing it's backed by Bezos ruins it for me. I know that's just me, but still, it bothers me and I'll likely cancel my pre-order.
I like the idea, and we need variety in the market to keep things evolving, but I like the bells and whistles. I just don't want it to phone home. Honestly, I want the title to be 'we don't have a network connection and we can still be a car'. Privacy is my #1 feature.
Speaking of variety in the market: does anyone know how the capital barrier for developing an EV compares to a combustion drivetrain? I wonder if, now that China has a developed supply ecosystem, it's becoming possible to build a car with lots of commodity/white-label parts. And I wonder if, as the quality of this supply chain improves, that means we'll start to see more small players emerge? (Pure speculation)
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I'm disappointed with the Slate. Knowing it's backed by Bezos ruins it for me. I know that's just me, but still, it bothers me and I'll likely cancel my pre-order.
Be happy he invested in something potentially good. I don’t think investment implies involvement, although that remains to be seen.
There's a stink around everything he touches that is repugnant to me.
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Oh, c’mon, it’s 44K. One can easily spend 30K or more on a motorcycle these days, we are a long way from “country club” prices. If it came to the U. S., I’d probably pick one up to park next to our Hyundai (yeah, a Hyundai, not a Range Rover).
$44k for something useless. Why are you guys ignoring that part of the equation and only talking about $44k as though it's the same as the $44k everyone else spends on that Hyundai that they actually need to be useful and haul kids and tools and furniture around a country that's bigger than the Netherlands all day every day like a mule? Those are two entirely different $44k.
Pretty sure I can get groceries in that thing, but that isn't the point.
Why are you guys ignoring that part of the equation...
Because that wasn't the question at hand. I was responding to the idea that to buy this thing one must have a country club membership and two Ferraris in the garage already. I'm just saying that this is wrong, and plenty of "ordinary" people would drop that on a weekend toy. But if you're poor, yes, this is not the car for you.
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What's the issue with the zero emissions rhetoric?
There are still emissions during production and decommissioning. And cars are sources of noise and light, and emissions due to component wear (tires and brakes, probably others as well). A specific car may be not as bad as others for the environment, but there is always some impact.
https://afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/electric-basics-ev https://afdc.energy.gov/laws/4249
I like the design, but I can't see myself owning it beyond having it as a hobby vehicle to around town. I've grown far too used to a GPS screen, rear camera and an entertainment system (free of ads thanks to my streaming subscription).
I actually thought the backup cam was required by law now. I wonder how they get around that. EDIT: Ah, it's not sold for the US market, so that's how.
No CCS, only Type 2? That's odd.
200km and 300km (I guess) WLTP mean a very small battery pack, so AC only charging seems pretty normal. It's probably some ~8-10 years old technology put in a small chassis.
If you live in a flat as many do in the Netherlands DC fast charging might well be the only practical way to charge a vehicle. So I think this is just a toy for the well off who have off street parking.
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Neither was there in cars with dials 30 years ago.
The speedometer and odometer at least could be fully mechanical: they used to be gear reduced from a cable to the wheels or transmission.
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200km and 300km (I guess) WLTP mean a very small battery pack, so AC only charging seems pretty normal. It's probably some ~8-10 years old technology put in a small chassis.
My 2015 Tesla S has ten year old technology and does DC fast charging. It's a solved problem. You can buy a Dongfeng Nammi Box compact car with 42 kWh battery 310 km WLTP range for 169 kNOK in Norway, that's 14.3 kEUR but it's probably more expensive in the rest of Europe. Still it's much cheaper and can DC charge at 70 kW. If you live in a flat as many do in the Netherlands DC fast charging might well be the only pr…
I mean, that's pretty obvious, a 2-seater with cabriolet Beetle vibes it's clearly aimed at people with enough money in their 50s and 60s. It's a toy for grown-ups, it doesn't solve any practical need.
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Privacy nightmare undoubtedly, but if you want affordable EVs BYD has you covered. A fully-functional, crash-worthy and apparently quite decent EV for around 16,000 USD (in Australia). If you can't buy one, blame your government: https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-reviews/2026-byd-atto-1-rev...
What do you mean by crash-worthy? Like it's so cheap it doesn't matter if you wreck it, or that you're likely to survive if you're in a crash?
The Cerice is lovely but if you have a high-speed crash with another car in it you're in big trouble.