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First recording of a dying human brain shows waves similar to memory flashbacks (2022)

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Re: First recording of a dying human brain shows waves similar to memory flashbacks (2022)

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Post by Spooky23 »

kakacik wrote: post #55
Reflecticon wrote: post #29

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I'm sorry that happened to you. That's so horrible. Wanna make me beat up bullies, man. Got damn bullies.

Their life is shit already, that's why they act as they act, passing aggression on to others in vain effort to get rid of some of that 'evil' in them. I understand this knee-jerk reaction very well, but it just feeds the neverending spiral of aggression. We humans act like storage of both good and bad, it then comes back up in various situations. What I want to say - you just beating up a bully will mean some other k…

Sometimes. I had a kid who’d get his buddies together and ambush me in the way out of school. His mom was an employee and the school staff would mysteriously not see anything involving him.

He then came at me by himself with a stick when I was walking my sister home far from school. I beat the shit out of him, broke his nose, bruised a rib and he sprained his ankle. My sister told her friends, and all of those little shits stayed away. He’s lucky - a year or two later I would have been stronger and probably hurt him pretty bad.

I will say that schools are much better at dealing with this behavior now. I’m sure the kid had problems, but it wasn’t my responsibility as a 10/11 year old to hug it out, and none of the 1980s adults seemed to give a shit.

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

toast0 wrote: post #196
ghosty141 wrote: post #151

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Humans react differently or have different tolerances, for example my teeth are very sensitive to pain and I needed extra adrenaline to fully numb it, even though I don't take drugs or have anything indicating that this would be necessary.

> extra adrenaline to fully numb it, That's not what they usually use... but people have different reactions to novacaine, and different innervation; for dental work, there's a couple typical options for where nerves are and which nerves cover which teeth, some of which need more shots in more places. For the GP, most likely the anesthetist put a note in the chart that they need more or different drugs to go under.

Also, even with the same person Novocaine can react differently sometimes (I've had enough cavities to know). And if you have an infection, that counteracts the Novocaine so they have to give you more (had that one happen to me too). Medicine is complicated, yo.

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Post by Podrod »

munificent wrote: post #172
gausswho wrote: post #74

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I had heard something unsettling about anesthesia that I could use verification or debunking. The gist was that modern implementations suppress memory formation rather than induce unconsciousness. That you remain in some sense aware of what's happening but don't remember the experience. This is safer than traditional methods, but could potentially subject the patient to complex mental or emotional trauma. Is that acc…

It's both. In smaller doses, anesthetics like propofol will leave you groggy but semi-awake and able to respond to commands. But you won't be able to form long term memories so you won't remember afterwards. This is "twilight sedation" and is what you usually get when you get a procedure like an endoscopy or colonscopy. You are somewhat awake so that you can help reposition yourself and stuff if they need you to. In…

>This is "twilight sedation" and is what you usually get when you get a procedure like an endoscopy

The only thing I got for my endoscopy a couple of years ago was some numbing spray for my nose and a decongestant.

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Post by stouset »

m463 wrote: post #155
lordnacho wrote: post #50

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For contrast, when I was put under with propofol for surgery, there was nothing. I thought I would gently fall asleep, but it was actually extremely fast. It went from "tell me about your life" which the anesthetist uses to check your state to "oh so came here for uni..." to "huh the surgery is over" in a single cut. Nothing in between, nothing like that thing you feel when before you fall asleep at night or wake up…

I had a procedure recently and the description in the preparation instructions said "you won't be asleep, but you might not remember everything" I talked to the nurse about this as I was prepping for the procedure, and he said that a recent patient talked throughout the procedure, but when he got back to his room afterwards, he asked "so when will the procedure start?" So, I think the drugs you get might let experien…

That sounds more like fentanyl (which is widely used as anesthesia for minor surgeries). With fentanyl you'll be awake but loopy and not fully there. Propofol feels like time had an entire section removed with before and after spliced directly together.

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Post by ryao »

> On the spiritual side, I think it is somewhat calming. I face this at times when you have patients that pass away and you talk their families; you have to be the bearer of bad news. Right now, we don't know anything about what happens to their loved one’s brain when they're dying. I think if we know that there is something happening in their brain, that they are remembering nice moments, we can tell these families and it builds a feeling of warmth that in that moment when they are falling, this can help a little bit to catch them.

I do not see any connection between this and spirituality. I also see no reason to think that they must be remembering nice moments. It is possible to be remembering painful moments. This seems especially likely in cases of PTSD.

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Post by Podrod »

avh02 wrote: post #98
lordnacho wrote: post #50

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For contrast, when I was put under with propofol for surgery, there was nothing. I thought I would gently fall asleep, but it was actually extremely fast. It went from "tell me about your life" which the anesthetist uses to check your state to "oh so came here for uni..." to "huh the surgery is over" in a single cut. Nothing in between, nothing like that thing you feel when before you fall asleep at night or wake up…

Had the same experience, what scared the crap out of me is that feeling of not even knowing you're out is how some people spend their last moment. Not just in surgery for example but in extreme other situations (nukes, titan sub, piano to the head, etc)... You're just there then you aren't and you don't even know. Shook me (lightly) for a while

That's basically sleep for me. I know I must dream but I only very rarely even remember the smallest fragment of any dreams. So sleeping is like I've not existed for 7 hours from my conscious perspective.

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Post by jibal »

mr_toad wrote: post #160
mikkupikku wrote: post #139

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Fighting back worked a hell of a lot better than anything the "responsible" adults could ever suggest. School teachers, councilors, my mother, etc, all gave useless advice. My dad told me to fight back. When I finally listened to him, that's when the bullying stopped. I lost that fight, but won the war so to speak. Telling kids not to fight back is a terrible cowardly thing to do, the adults who do that are either ob…

Sure, if you fight back, the bully is less likely to pick on you . They’ll just pick on the next weakest kid instead.

I don't think you've thought this through.

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Post by yieldcrv »

ryao wrote: post #205

> On the spiritual side, I think it is somewhat calming. I face this at times when you have patients that pass away and you talk their families; you have to be the bearer of bad news. Right now, we don't know anything about what happens to their loved one’s brain when they're dying. I think if we know that there is something happening in their brain, that they are remembering nice moments, we can tell these families…

It's just a byproduct of needing to be syndicated at a University in Kentucky
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