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ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Re: ICE and CBP agents are scanning faces on the street to verify citizenship

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Post by cosmicgadget »

tootie wrote: post #116
_yb2s wrote: post #55

Don’t fall for the lie that this is at all about illegal immigration- that is just an excuse for what has become state sponsored KKK style racial terrorism operating completely outside the law. Videos all over the Internet show them violently attacking and terrorizing hispanic looking people with no concern for if they are citizens or not. At the Wilder raid in Idaho they were shooting children with rubber bullets, a…

It is absolutely insane that the party who tried on the Libertarian mask less than 20 years ago and rode high on a wave of "don't tread on me" individual liberty is now suddenly ok with masked thugs scanning everyone's faces for their master database of enemies of the state.

You can expect the party to vote along party lines. The real funny one here is all the Rogan libertarians who made a conscious choice to vote for this.

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Post by throw-the-towel »

lawn wrote: post #186
fabian2k wrote: post #24

The absolutely outrageous thing is that apparently they are instructed to ignore all other evidence of citizenship if that app says someone is not a citizen. So even if you have your birth certificate ready, doesn't matter. This is completely lawless. From the article: > He also said “ICE officials have told us that an apparent biometric match by Mobile Fortify is a ‘definitive’ determination of a person’s status and…

> the person is an alien The dehumanizing language is absolutely disgusting and it's use is an important milestone towards genocide.

This particular word has been in official use for ages. I agree that it's disgusting.

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Post by xtracto »

fabian2k wrote: post #24

The absolutely outrageous thing is that apparently they are instructed to ignore all other evidence of citizenship if that app says someone is not a citizen. So even if you have your birth certificate ready, doesn't matter. This is completely lawless. From the article: > He also said “ICE officials have told us that an apparent biometric match by Mobile Fortify is a ‘definitive’ determination of a person’s status and…

At this point, the US is a failed democracy and a facist state. I would definitely advice people from other countries to leave ASAP.

The facist American government is even sending their dissident citizens to detention camps in Africa .

Good luck to Americans that cannot go somewhere else.

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Post by cosmicgadget »

dmitrygr wrote: post #30

'Katz v. United States' was quite clear - you have no expectation of privacy in public. Anyone may photograph you and use said photos. Do I like it? No. But that is the current caselaw in USA. "What a person knowingly exposes to the public [...] is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection." - Justice Potter in 'Katz v. United States'

Keep in mind that what "anyone" can do and what "anyone serving in an official government capacity" can do are different.

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Post by advisedwang »

dmitrygr wrote: post #69
jazzyjackson wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Taking photo is one thing, storing biometrics to compare against without consent is quite another Illinois has the Biometric Information Privacy Act. https://www.ilga.gov/Legislation/ILCS/Articles?ActID=3004&Ch...

Fair. If anything is stored, it likely would be illegal in some states.

Something must already be stored, for them to be comparing the photo against.

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Post by BobaFloutist »

varispeed wrote: post #26
dgllghr wrote: post #17

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I wonder why people downvote. Many western countries now couldn't be more obviously fascist. State responsibilities are being offloaded to multinational corporations, de facto private policing is around the corner, surveillance (digital ID tracking your movements and what you talk about, chat controls and whatnot). It's creeping in and people pretend it's not happening.

Because "The rest aren't doing enough to push it back out" is the same old, tired victim blaming that comes up every time anyone points out that one American political party seems to have different policies and priorities than the other.
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