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A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool

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Re: A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool

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Post by Traubenfuchs »

anothernewdude wrote: post #112
robocat wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI: the primary hazard from acute, high-dose uranium ingestion is chemical toxicity leading to acute kidney failure (nephrotoxicity), not radiation.

Fuck me, is there anything fun that isn't nephrotoxic?

PDE5 (viagra, cyalis) improve the health of the cardiovascular system, thus improve kidney health and I greatly enjoy them.

This is well researched and just like with semaglutide I believe a big part of the population should take daily tadalafil.

Better cardiovascular health, more erections and many positive downstream effects (lower E:T ratio, weight loss) that are beyond the scope of this comment.

Re: A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool

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Post by hunterpayne »

arthurcolle wrote: post #108

300 CPM in hair after decontamination is a massive red flag. If this is from systemic circulation, could be GBq-level total body activity. The non-emergency classification is bureaucratic nonsense. This is an internal contamination event with unknown but potentially severe consequences.

CPM is a measure of rate, GBq is a total amount. And 300 CPM is basically nothing. People live their entire lives in places where the natural background radiation is higher than that with no increased chance of cancer.

Re: A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool

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Post by Someone »

arthurcolle wrote: post #108

300 CPM in hair after decontamination is a massive red flag. If this is from systemic circulation, could be GBq-level total body activity. The non-emergency classification is bureaucratic nonsense. This is an internal contamination event with unknown but potentially severe consequences.

> The non-emergency classification is bureaucratic nonsense

FTA: “This is an eight-hour notification, non-emergency, for the transportation of a contaminated person offsite“

I read that as that the “non-emergency” classification isn’t for the victim or the “fell into a nuclear reactor pool”, but for the effects on those outside the facility of sending the victim off site.

Re: A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool

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Post by iamacyborg »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #201
anothernewdude wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fuck me, is there anything fun that isn't nephrotoxic?

PDE5 (viagra, cyalis) improve the health of the cardiovascular system, thus improve kidney health and I greatly enjoy them. This is well researched and just like with semaglutide I believe a big part of the population should take daily tadalafil. Better cardiovascular health, more erections and many positive downstream effects (lower E:T ratio, weight loss) that are beyond the scope of this comment.

People should probably try improve their CV health via exercise, rather than pills, wherever possible.

Re: A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool

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Post by lstodd »

dlcarrier wrote: post #155
foobar1962 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A bite requires teeth. Sharks bite. Snakes bite. Bees and wasps sting. Jellyfish and bluebottles sting. Not sure about spiders. Are their fangs considered to be teeth? Platypus have venomous spurs, not sure what that’s called.

Mosquitos bite with their nose.

and blackflies/moshka just eat you

Re: A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool

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Post by aw1621107 »

roenxi wrote: post #185
aw1621107 wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This website [0] gives the same numbers (300 CPM -> 500 REM). Seems like a candidate for what was used at the very least, and nothing else obviously appeared to claim a similar CPM -> REM conversion capability. Assuming this website was used, it looks like it does a naive multiplication by 5/3, which seems... simplistic? The rest of the page doesn't exactly fill me with confidence either. No indication of how the con…

I'd love to know how they got to 5/3. It also offers CPM to half-life conversion which has to be at least poorly labelled. That would imply that if two piles of different radioactive substances emit the same amount of radiation (obviously different masses in each pile) they have the same half life. That isn't the case, half life depends on what the substance is which is radiating, not the measured amount of radiation…

Given their CPM to half-life conversion amounts to dividing by 60 (not to mention the nonsensical units), I'm not sure I'd place much faith in the website at all.

Re: A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool

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Post by hunterpayne »

almosthere wrote: post #94

Is he going to die no matter what or is this survivable?

He will be fine. He might not still have his job in a few months but other that, he will be fine. 300 CPM isn't even close to dangerous. You get a higher dose every time you fly in an airplane, or go to La Paz, Bolivia.

Re: A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool

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Post by bmacho »

andy99 wrote: post #19
sigmar wrote: post #14

It doesn't say worker, just "person." I could understand falling in with some freak accident where you trip. But they ingested the water?!

Knowing nothing about nuclear reactor design, why would there ever be a dangerous pool that people could walk by that wasn’t covered? Hard to believe it’s like some kind of Bond villain complex with open pools everywhere. This must have been in the course of some kind of servicing that required opening something that normally stays closed?

Huh why not. It's far less dangerous than, say, a train station or a viewpoint where everyone can just jump and die. Many reactors are open for kids and class trips where everyone can stare into a reactor

Re: A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool

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Post by louthy »

dlcarrier wrote: post #152
hshdhdhehd wrote: post #7

> Non Emergency I guess in a nuclear reactor there is a lingual shift and the word emergency cant be used for just any old 911 call. Like how Australians apparently call a jellyfish bite "uncomfortable"

Or how Brits call a civil war "trouble"

We’re not that flippant, they’re ‘troubles’, indicating ’ongoing concern’.
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