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ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Valve does some important gatekeeping that has a real impact: There's (almost?) no ads and microtransactions in Steam games. If you look at mobile games or browser games, you can see that developers would put them in, if they could.

> microtransactions in Steam games ROFL. Valve made games have (and heavily popularized): Paid battlepasses, Microtransactions, Loot Boxes and "NFTs"

Valve invented loot boxes, they started with CS:GO. Don't forget skin "economies" from TF2. I find it really funny nobody acknowledges this.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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You keep bringing up Proton but you forget that Proton is just Wine + a couple of other existing FOSS projects + some of Valve's patches. Wine is really what makes the magic happen, and Wine existed as far back as 1993, and there was barely a Linux community back then. So you can't really blame the community for Proton, it's just a natural result of things. Even before Proton came along, there were similar projects t…

Because that is ultimately what makes Windows games run on Linux, and represents Valve's failure to change the culture of game studios to consider GNU/Linux worth targeting, even when they have Android/NDK builds that they could easily use as starting point. Indeed nothing is new, rebooting the Linux Desktop every couple of years, and I still cannot buy a GNU/Linux powered desktop at the shopping mall, with 100% ever…

> Because that is ultimately what makes Windows games run on Linux, and represents Valve's failure to change the culture of game studios to consider GNU/Linux worth targeting

Unfortunately, eliminating the diversity of the Linux ecosystem would also be eliminating one of its strengths. Proton covers up that diversity, making it easier for game developers to target Linux (whether they do so intentionally or incidentally). While a few Linux gamers may be bothered by the Windows API providing that abstraction layer, I doubt that many are.

> I still cannot buy a GNU/Linux powered desktop at the shopping mall, with 100% everything working

If you tried installing Windows from official media on one of those shopping mall computers, you would likely find that significant pieces of hardware would not work. Sometimes, it is difficult to proceed through the install process due to this. (I have a laptop where neither the trackpad nor touch screen will work until drivers are installed, so you have to navigate through the installer with a keyboard or attach a mouse). Other times, it is theoretically impossible to complete the install process unless drivers are installed during the installation process or you temporarily add supported hardware to the machine. (Windows does not support the network adapter out of the box on the aforementioned laptop, so you theoretically get stuck at the network connection screen of the OOBE.) Do the same with Linux, and the only unsupported piece of hardware out of the box is the fingerprint reader. Heck, even the printer and scanner works out of the box. I haven't managed to get the printer or scanner working consistently under Windows even with the vendor's software installed. It's also worth mentioning that none of this hardware is obscure. (Lenovo Yoga laptop, Epson printer.)

I realize that this is misinterpreting your point, that you can walk into a store and buy a Windows laptop and you cannot do the same with Linux. At least from a major retailer. Yes, that is a valid point. On the other hand, the infrastructure is already in place. The thing that is missing is consumer demand.

> lets not forget current Valve's management won't live forever

I'm not even sure how that's relevant here. You could easily argue the same thing about Microsoft. If anything, the situation for Microsoft is worse since Linux, WINE, etc. isn't controlled by a single entity. Valve is, so the convenience of Steam could vanish. On the other hand, there are open source projects that aim to create Windows game launchers that are not tied to Valve.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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I am choosing to let them install kernel level software because I want to be able to play multiplayer games without cheaters. There doesn't seem to be any other way that people have found to effectively block cheaters. A user is in full control of their Linux install, which is great... unless I want to play them in a game and they decide to cheat. It is a tradeoff, yes, but one I choose to make because being able to…

Just play with your actual friends. If they start cheating you can go over and kick them in the nuts. Match making was a horrible development for gaming.

Such a hn comment. “Just dont do this thing you bought the game to do” I play cod with friends so we can frag other players together.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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I don’t really know who you’re talking to? Your options are, 1. Buy Windows. Means you has absolutely no control. 2. Promote the development of anti-cheat on the linux, where you can not install it because you don’t like it. No idea that you’re arguing against me, when all I’m doing is arguing for increased amount of freedom is tad silly.. no?

Option 3 was already stated: don't buy software that requires a DRM rootkit. Vote against it with your wallet. Battlefield 6 requires a rootkit? Battlefield 1942 and 2 are still fun and don't. I've had only Linux on my home computers for like a decade now, and Windows has since then become unusable so I'm not going back. Why would I buy software that won't run?

Your wallet has next to no voting power as is, in part due to self inflicted injuries making gnu/linux unviable for game development. Or any app development for that matter.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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I love my Steam Deck, but it is really frustrating how many of the games i regularly play can't be played on it - Madden, EA FC, PUBG, all won't run even though the hardware is plenty to play them. The limitations of anti cheat on Linux might be insurmountable

Bought GTA IV only to find out the Rockstar Launcher got broken on Linux about a month before I purchased it. Downloaded all twenty gigs of the game, can’t use a penny’s worth due to the broken Rockstar Launcher.

Not even the legacy edition?

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Bought GTA IV only to find out the Rockstar Launcher got broken on Linux about a month before I purchased it. Downloaded all twenty gigs of the game, can’t use a penny’s worth due to the broken Rockstar Launcher.

Not even the legacy edition?

Although it's compelling to ditch the Rockstar malware, any alternatives would need to be obtained from the high seas and that's off the table.
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