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Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by i386 »

DigitalSea wrote: post #93
chrisacky wrote: post #13

Just watched the video [1] in entirety. One point, you can tell this is a total work in progress/concept, and that the UI is also most likely staged at this point. (I make this observation based on the fact that every post had "12 Connects", "3 Comments" and "2 Shares". Surely if you put this much effort into production of a video you would change these numbers?) Anyway, features which I picked up from the video... -…

The company I work for (Josephmark) was hired by MySpace to redesign the site and create something radically different. The interface you see was created by a few talented designers, the video you say was staged is definitely not staged. What you are seeing is what the new MySpace will look like when it's ready to launch. Yes, the site is focusing music - the new MySpace is going to be a social music platform because…

I watched the video and immediately thought that this thing was miles ahead. Can't wait to try it :)

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by jff »

logn wrote: post #153
anjc wrote: post #38

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Am i wrong in saying that Myspace seemed to stay relevant for longer than it possibly should have purely because musicians and bands seemed to have an affection for it, for whatever reason? I know that even up until recently, when i've searched for local musicians, their Myspace page is still very high in search rankings, and i still often (somehow) find myself listening to local band's music via Myspace. If they're…

Musicians like myspace because you can customize your homepage. And it's accepted to send invites to random people. On Facebook you don't have either of these. Also they added music friendly features such as letting users select your tune as their homepage theme song. As a musician I've found Myspace to be invaluable. I think they face stiff competition from soundcloud. But a big problem with soundcloud is the amount…

Customized homepages, random invites, and homepage theme songs: you basically just outlined the main reasons I stopped using Myspace.

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by reddiric »

esrauch wrote: post #165
ryanmolden wrote: post #124

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There is a middle ground, it is called a simple, straight forward message, something like "We don't support your browser". No shark needed, no suggestions that the user "doesn't use the internet much" or are "at their parent's house". Though the idea of MySpace trying to put on a hipster front is hilarious in the irony. Really? MySpace still exists as an actual thing?

Except that many IE8 users don't even know what a browser is. That isn't an euphemism, they literally don't know the word "browser". There message as displayed conveys the message better than "We don't support your browser" to those people, and there are more of those people than there are Opera users.

And some people use IE, keep it up to date, and don't like snarky websites talking down to them.

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by mibbitier »

lordlarm wrote: post #48

As a computer scientist and an Opera user this actually insults me: http://i.imgur.com/7k0bN.png Ironically Opera was the one who proposed the -tag which this site uses for it's rotating LP, in 2007. [1] Way to exclude users. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video#History_of_.3Cvideo...

Opera is full of nonstandard irritating mishmashes of stupid.

Their market share has been under 1% for years, so it's really not worth any website worrying about.

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by mibbitier »

ryanmolden wrote: post #149
akldfgj wrote: post #140

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To quote the patron saint of Hacker News, patio11: If you don't like it, maybe you aren't in their target market. Do you think you are in MySpace's target market?

Probably not, I am a tech aware, young adult with lots of disposable income and nowhere to spend it. I can see how they would prefer to target the teenage set. Though I guess that isn't their target either as they say "you are at your parents house", which would be sort of tautological if their target were teens. So maybe it is middle aged folks? Retirees? Here is another possible explanation: they aren't some kind o…

99% of people aren't using Opera. I think they can cope with upsetting a few folks.

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by h2s »

jenius wrote: post #141
luriel wrote: post #100

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The Web 2.0 craze is leading us back to the "Best viewed with" insanity of the 90's. And is only going to get worse, with WebGL is not just "Sorry your browser is not supported, please download a different one." , but "Your video card drivers are not supported, buy new hardware and/or install a different Operating System"

So what exactly do you propose? That we just halt all technological innovation on the web so that people that don't feel better about having old browsers and/or computers? This is a ridiculous idea, and a ridiculous comment. I'm a web developer and I'm so excited about making awesome things and the fact that the web is evolving and enabling us to do this, and share our creations with the world. People like you and co…

    > I'm a web developer
Me too, and I agree with you. I would be interested to hear from anybody who currently works as a professional web developer and thinks that supporting a well-defined set of browsers is a bad idea. I suspect that a lot of this negative commentary is coming from people who have no idea what kind of workload can be added by supporting an extra browser.

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by mibbitier »

aw3c2 wrote: post #39

Latest Opera and I get insulted: Not so fast! Our superpowers have detected you're using an outdated browser. That must mean: a You don't use the Internet very often. b You're at your parents' place on the PC they bought in 1996. c You work for the government or a big corporation. There's still hope. If you answered a or b, all you need to do is click on one of the beautiful icons below, follow the instructions and y…

d) You use a non-standards compliant odd-ball browser such as Opera, which is used by around 700 people globally.

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by jarek »

khet wrote: post #196
rauljara wrote: post #111

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I agree with you that opera should support web sprockets, and I sympathize with web developers making the decision to develop for new technology and browsers that don't support it be damned. But the actual message myspace displays is pretty needlessly snarky and stupidly insulting. I also have zero faith they'll be able to update their browser detection script often enough to avoid looking like dinosaurs themselves f…

It takes character and guts to stand up for something. I think MySpace can be credited for that. The snark-iness was probably meant more for ie6-7 users than Opera users.

> It takes character and guts to stand up for something.

What does showing a message "Our superpowers have detected you're using an outdated browser. That must mean: a - You don't use the Internet very often. b - You're at your parents' place on the PC they bought in 1996. c - You work for the government or a big corporation." to users using a browser released in the past month stand up for, other than ignorance?

Re: Myspace previews complete redesign

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Post by dronacharya »

DigitalSea wrote: post #164
artursapek wrote: post #52

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I hate it when design agencies try this hard to be cool.

I'll pass on your humbling words to the design team, I'm sure they'll appreciate your words. They put a lot of hard work into the redesign, they're not trying to be anything. What you see is a refreshing take on a social site and although I am biased because I work for the agency that designed (as a developer) it doesn't take a designer to see this is the best MySpace has ever looked. It's condescending comments like…

Not so fast!

a) You don't really use HN that often b) You're accessing HN from your grandpa's computer on IE3 c) You work for a REALLY big corporation

If you chose a) or b), there's still hope! Just smile ( :-) ) and you'll soon be enjoying HN like it's '96

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