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Re: Replacement.ai

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Post by beeflet »

AviationAtom wrote: post #60
sincerely wrote: post #9

I kind of get it, but at the same time...isn't "we made a machine to do something that people used to do" basically the entire history of of technology? It feels like somehow we should have figured out how to cope with the "but what about the old jobs" problem

I always compare it to the age of the industrial revolution. I have no doubt you had stubborn old people saying: "Why would I need a machine to do what I can do just fine by hand??" Those people quickly found themselves at a disadvantage to those who choose not to fight change, but to embrace it and harness technological leaps to improve their productivity and output.

The difference is that in the industrial revolution there was a migration from hard physical labor to cushy information work.

Now that information work is being automated, there will be nothing left!

This "embrace or die" strategy obviously doesn't work on a societal scale, it is an individual strategy.

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Post by soganess »

everdrive wrote: post #171

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Honestly, from what I understand, most men’s relationship to “lovemaking” isn’t exactly winning awards. Plus, if the tables were turned, I’m sure some SV types would just call it “rational” or “logical” and magically develop nuanced yet expansive understandings of consent, autonomy, and ownership (“your wife”) overnight.

Assuming the Everdrive is M and the SNES cartridge port is F, I can understand why the Everclan men are particularly attuned to this topic. Many better-quality, more feature-rich, and cheaper SNES multicarts have hit the market; the Everdrive is looking dated.

Re: Replacement.ai

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Post by brap »

franga2000 wrote: post #164
TechSquidTV wrote: post #86

Personal belief, but robots coming for your jobs is not a valid argument against robots. If robots can do a job better and/or faster, they should be the ones doing the jobs. Specialization is how we got to the future. So the problem isn't robots, it's the structure of how we humans rely on jobs for income. I don't necessarily feel like it's the AI company's problem to fix either. This is what government is for, and n…

"The government" needs time to fix this and until then, we need to not automate everyone out of a job. If that means we don't "get to the future" until then, fine. "Fault" or not, the AI companies are putting people in danger now and unless we can implement a more proper solution extremely quickly, they just have to put up with being slowed down. But it's not like "the government" (as if there is just one) simply doe…

So your government should pump the brakes, while other governments rush towards ASI. And you believe this will benefit you, long term? Or do you believe in “global cooperation”?

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Post by romellem »

TechSquidTV wrote: post #86

Personal belief, but robots coming for your jobs is not a valid argument against robots. If robots can do a job better and/or faster, they should be the ones doing the jobs. Specialization is how we got to the future. So the problem isn't robots, it's the structure of how we humans rely on jobs for income. I don't necessarily feel like it's the AI company's problem to fix either. This is what government is for, and n…

“Guns don’t kill people, etc…”

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Post by baconbrand »

gnarlouse wrote: post #165
skybrian wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s one scenario, but there are others. There are lots of open-weight models. Why wouldn’t ownership of AI end up being widely distributed? Mabybe it's more like solar panels than nuclear power plants?

My potato RTX vs your supercomputer cluster and circular chipfab/ai-training economy. Challenge: “Be competitive in the market place.” Go.

Your potato RTX that uses a finite amount of power, is already paid for, and does things that you know are useful verses your supercomputer cluster and circular funding economy that uses infinite power, is 10x more overleveraged than the dot com bubble, and does things that you think might be useful someday. Challenge:

“Don’t collapse the global economy.”

:)

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Post by lwhi »

TechSquidTV wrote: post #86

Personal belief, but robots coming for your jobs is not a valid argument against robots. If robots can do a job better and/or faster, they should be the ones doing the jobs. Specialization is how we got to the future. So the problem isn't robots, it's the structure of how we humans rely on jobs for income. I don't necessarily feel like it's the AI company's problem to fix either. This is what government is for, and n…

Government no longer has the power or authority to constrain private enterprise; especially in highly technical sectors.

Re: Replacement.ai

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Post by garganzol »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #149
garganzol wrote: post #118

It seems that some tech people are prone to ludditism. No wonders here, AI is sharper and brighter than most tech workers usually are. Instead of facing the new reality, some people start to talk about the bubbles, AI being sloppy, etc. Which is not generally true; mostly it's the users' psychological projection of their own traits and the resulting fear-induced smear campaigns. The phenomenon is well described in ps…

When people mention the Luddites, they almost always do so incorrectly as you have here. Luddites weren't afraid of technology because it was better than them. In fact, it was worse. There was no projection. The phenomenon you're describing here was not a Luddite phenomenon. They were concerned about how machines would disrupt employment, wages, product quality, work autonomy, power imbalances, and working conditions…

Exactly, ludditism revolves around a fear of loosing identity. This phenomenon intersects with narcissism, which in turn is caused by the lack of authenticity. In terms of creative work, we talk about lacking professional authenticity.

In simple words, authenticity is the desire to work on mistakes and improve yourself, being flexible enough to embrace the changes sooner or later. If one is lacking some parts of it, one tends to become a narcissist or a luddite, being angry trying to regain the ever-slipping sense of control.

To translate to human language: gold diggers who entered the industry just for money do not truly belong to the said industry, while those who were driven by spirit will prosper.

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