Only the cheapest MacBook get M5, the rest stay with M4 Pro and M4 Max? what's going on with that lineup?
Because there is no M5 Pro and Max yet obviously.
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#202To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…
I hear you. Apple hw and Linux combination would be have been great for me.
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
The $1599 M5 Macbook Pro: Good enough for a guy who thinks a 12-year-old MacBook with 8 gigs of ram is "still perfectly usable" :)
I know it’s silly, but I think I represent over 90% of apples customers in that way. I just need something that reads emails and shows me porn.
That 90% are perfect candidates for the even cheaper Macbook Air lineup.
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#204Apparently, in Europe, the box will not contain a charger [1]. This is absolutely mind-blowing to me. edit: suggested retail price also dropped with EUR 100. Mind is less blown now. It seems like a good thing in fact. edit2: in Belgium, the combined price of the 70W adapter and 2m USB-C to MagSafe is EUR 120. [1] https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-macbook-pro-does-no...
The real crime is that it starts at 1799 euros, which is $2100, vs $1599 in the US, I know US prices are before tax but even with 20% VAT you're far off...
ASUS’s ZenBook Duo (UX84060) is over 50% dearer in Australia than in the USA.
When it was announced, I expected it to be at least 4000 AUD (~2600 USD). When I heard it was starting at 1500 USD instead (~2300 AUD), I was astonished and very excited. And it still is that price… but only in the US. In Australia it is 4000 AUD (the 32GB/1TB model, which is 1700 USD, ~2600 AUD). So I sadly didn’t get one.
Is the rest of the world subsidising the US market, or are they just profiteering in the rest of the world?
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#205Am I remembering right that the previous 14" MacBook Pro started at $1399 (and seems to be no longer available?), so this is a $200 price increase?
(I had just been looking at macs a few weeks ago, and had noticed how close in price macbook pro and macbook air were for same specs -- was thinking, really no reason not to get pro even if all I really want it for is the built-in HDMI. They are now more price differentiated, if I am remembering right).
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#206Looks premium, eco-responsible, powerful, just like the M4. And the M3. And the one before. Does anyone know what exactly changed this year?
https://www.apple.com/mac/compare/?modelList=MacBook-Air-M4,... - m4 -> m5, same core number and distribution, "neural accelerators", higher memory bandwidth - max storage increased from 2 to 4TB (and probably an extra kidney in price) Everything else is strictly identical. The marketing blurb claims 2~3x the performances of the M4 for AI stuff (I assume that's the neural accelerators), 20% for CPU tasks (compiling),…
This is great but it's apples to oranges until they have Pro & Max variants we can directly compare against the M4 line.
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#207The lack of WiFi 7 is disappointing. 6E is fine but by now I'd expect 7 in new computers.
Especially considering the M5 iPad pro has WiFi 7.
Sounds like maybe they didn't want to try and fit their new N1 chip this go around so they could re-use some components? MacBook still has the same broadcom chip. Or for a pro differentiating feature when the M5 Pro/Max comes out later. There's a rumored MBP re-design, so I'm guessing we'll see it then along with it having the N1 for WiFi 7.
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#208Apparently, in Europe, the box will not contain a charger [1]. This is absolutely mind-blowing to me. edit: suggested retail price also dropped with EUR 100. Mind is less blown now. It seems like a good thing in fact. edit2: in Belgium, the combined price of the 70W adapter and 2m USB-C to MagSafe is EUR 120. [1] https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-macbook-pro-does-no...
Many people got played on the charger thing. It’s never free, it’s a mandatory bundle. But companies only put one line item on the receipt, never refer to the primary component separately but instead conflate its name and idea with the bundle, and when forced to de-bundle (usually) bump the primary component’s price to compensate, and people buy it: “the EU took away my charger!”
Chargers don’t change quickly. If I lost my charger from 2019, the ideal replacement in 2025 would be literally exactly the same model—and mine still works like new and looks good. I have nothing to gain from buying a new charger.
We should be cheering the EU for ending an abuse that the US has long failed to.
Also, it still bundles a USB-C to MagSafe 3 cable.
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.apple.com/mac/compare/?modelList=MacBook-Air-M4,... - m4 -> m5, same core number and distribution, "neural accelerators", higher memory bandwidth - max storage increased from 2 to 4TB (and probably an extra kidney in price) Everything else is strictly identical. The marketing blurb claims 2~3x the performances of the M4 for AI stuff (I assume that's the neural accelerators), 20% for CPU tasks (compiling),…
4TB was available before, maybe only coupled with a Max CPU, which seems not available yet for M5.
I’m comparing comparable configurations. You can get 128GB ram and 8TB storage on an m4 max, and 512GB ram and 16 TB storage on an m3 ultra. Neither is relevant to the M5.
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#210wait I can’t have M5 with 64GB ram? highest is just 32GB which is ridiculous!
M5 Pro and M5 Max will come later with higher RAM support. This has been their staggered release strategy for a while.
I thought the Pro and Max usually get announced at the same time and the Ultra comes later...