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Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act

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You know, I'd like to actually know the answer to the question you're posing there. Does discussing suicide increase the overall rate, is it neutral -- or does it even decrease it? The Samaritans are usually regarded as a net public benefit, though they tend not to encourage people to go through with it, whereas the Wikipedia link suggests that the users of that forum have some kind of fetish for it. I would also exp…

Having perused the site a number of times, I wouldn't say many people there "have a fetish for it". You're a million times more likely to be told to kill yourself on 4chan than on SS. SS simply says a) suicide should be your choice, b) dehumanizing people for having suicidal thoughts is bad. Sadly these opinions are so far outside the overton window that suicidal people end up having no choice but to discuss their pr…

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The Geneva Conventions are international humanitarian laws consisting of four treaties and three additional protocols that establish international legal standards for humanitarian treatment in war. -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions What would those have to do with "intelligence contractor leaked our stuff, might be on the Bolivian president's plane, oh no a diplomatic incident"?

All you did was link to the main page of a wikipedia article and copy and paste the first sentence. Your response is so lazy, it doesn't even deserve a response, but I'm putting this out here for the benefit of the general public: https://www.icrc.org/en/article/grave-breaches-defined-genev... GC 4 Art. 147. "Grave breaches to which the preceding Article relates shall be those involving any of the following acts, if…

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My government doesn't seem to be listening to me, did you have yours professionally trained or something?

> did you have yours professionally trained or something? It's rather simple really; the secret is money. Only then can you tame a politician.

One no more tames a politician than one tames a dog. When you stop feeding either their slab of meat, you become their next meal.

Re: Ofcom fines 4chan £20K and counting for violating UK's Online Safety Act

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Many people are saying this is symbolic and cannot be enforced. Unfortunately, that's just not true. Look at what happened to the founder of Telegram. Some jurisdiction decides you're violating their laws, all you need to do is catch a connecting flight or take a vacation on their soil or a place that will eagerly extradite, and you're a political prisoner. What happens if one of the officers of 4Chan or Gab is on a…

> The UK is a police state. The UK is further from being a police state than the USA is. And despite what Trump has been doing, both are nowhere near being that. I mean, UK cops aren't even routinely given firearms… and the cops themselves don't want to change that .

I'll be the first to tell you, police in the USA are absolute tyrants. You can be killed for mouthing off to the police here, and likely nothing will happen to them.

We don't jail people for tweets though.

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All you did was link to the main page of a wikipedia article and copy and paste the first sentence. Your response is so lazy, it doesn't even deserve a response, but I'm putting this out here for the benefit of the general public: https://www.icrc.org/en/article/grave-breaches-defined-genev... GC 4 Art. 147. "Grave breaches to which the preceding Article relates shall be those involving any of the following acts, if…

> If these laws apply between enemy nations engaged in declared war, they are even more applicable to countries at peace with one another. So far as I can tell, that claim is your own invention. Also, according to your own link's link to the full text: Article 4 - Definition of protected persons Persons protected by the Convention are those who, at a given moment and in any manner whatsoever, find themselves, in case…

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> you live in a police state. sigh You've not lived in a police state, or more accurately, you've been online too much to actually get context. In the UK threatening to kill someone has been illegal since at least ~1880 something. Going online an publicly calling for the death of one or more person (which in the eyes of the law is pretty close to sending a good old paper death threat) is not only widely considered a…

Let's not act like political speech has not been used to arrest people in the UK. To claim otherwise is a lie, or a level of ignorance only afforded to small children.

> To claim otherwise is a lie, or a level of ignorance only afforded to small children.

And I have not claimed otherwise. during the troubles stuff went south very quickly. What you are doing are conflating political persecution with the censoring of 4chan, an organisation who's adherence to law is flexible at best.

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All you did was link to the main page of a wikipedia article and copy and paste the first sentence. Your response is so lazy, it doesn't even deserve a response, but I'm putting this out here for the benefit of the general public: https://www.icrc.org/en/article/grave-breaches-defined-genev... GC 4 Art. 147. "Grave breaches to which the preceding Article relates shall be those involving any of the following acts, if…

> If these laws apply between enemy nations engaged in declared war, they are even more applicable to countries at peace with one another. So far as I can tell, that claim is your own invention. Also, according to your own link's link to the full text: Article 4 - Definition of protected persons Persons protected by the Convention are those who, at a given moment and in any manner whatsoever, find themselves, in case…

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Coleman won the 'Slants' case at SCOTUS, so he's the real thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matal_v._Tam https://www.likelihoodofconfusion.com/legal-publications-ron...

Arguing a case in front of SCOTUS still means something today?

As a layman, I thought that was a bit of a prestige deal. Is it not?

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Coleman won the 'Slants' case at SCOTUS, so he's the real thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matal_v._Tam https://www.likelihoodofconfusion.com/legal-publications-ron...

Arguing a case in front of SCOTUS still means something today?

Put enough money into the right-wing hands and anything is possible
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