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Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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Re: Deloitte to refund the Australian government after using AI in $440k report

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Post by riffraff »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #184
citizenpaul wrote: post #163

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I really do think that this type of AI use is going to become a true life/death epidemic. The people at Deloitte are not generally dumb unmotivated people. They are ruthless $$ chasers and if AI is allowed they will use it to check the boxes and move onto the next paycheck. Many of these people will effectively have their life ruined. Many will likely take their own life. Its not just harmless paperwork fudging when…

> The people at Deloitte are not generally dumb unmotivated people Dumb and highly motivated, then?

I'm pretty sure they're very motivated to make money.

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Post by ratelimitsteve »

lostlogin wrote: post #191
orthecreedence wrote: post #175

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Sincerely, ICE

When humans want a scapegoat, the target is often chosen based on race. What will AI pick on?

What the racists tell it to pick. Machines don't do anything humans don't tell them to do.

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Post by nullc »

an0malous wrote: post #119
nullc wrote: post #4

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That's how it went for Craig Wright, famous Satoshi imposter-- prior to his bitcoin infamy he stole millions via fraudulent GST refunds and fraudulent refundable R&D tax credits then got caught attempting tens of millions more. He fled Australia, repaid part of the fraud and has generally been living it up elsewhere in the world with no further consequences from his tax fraud.

If you’re going to commit crimes, be ambitious. Theft, murder, and lying all have lesser punishments the bigger you go with them because you get grouped with the investor class that does these things all the time and has immunity from severe consequences

It really is the case-- Post Covid Wright's style of GST fraud[1] went pretty much viral and they did start heavy enforcement actions, but their videos are full of raiding the homes of people living in public housing who stole a few thousand. I guess if you stole enough to pay for a fancy law firm like Wright did, you're much better off.

[Wright's whole Satoshi cosplay seems to have resulted from this fraud because when the ATO did catch him they asked the obvious question: "Where did the money you were supposedly spending come from in the first place?" Bitcoin was just hitting the news bigtime then so he claimed to be an early bitcoin miner, but the amounts in question were so large that he needed to eventually extend it to being Satoshi to try to make it make sense.]

[1] in AU instead of not charging resellers sales tax businesses just apply to have their sales tax paid refunded, and it more or less works on the honor system. So you can spin up a bunch of on-paper businesses, make some sham sales between them-- the buying side claims the GST refund, the selling side just goes out of business without ever paying the sales tax.

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Post by ratelimitsteve »

lostlogin wrote: post #193
jimnotgym wrote: post #186

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In my experience, doctors will always treat a sore neck or back with pain killers or anti-inflammatories.

Did that work?

not the person you're responding to but it worked until they cut me off with no tapering plan, then I had back pain and opioid withdrawal. hooray!

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Post by Hoasi »

figassis wrote: post #173
Hoasi wrote: post #129

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"We can drive the value of a service towards zero and create additional value at the same time," was the thinking here.

I think you mean "We can drive the cost of a service towards zero and create additional value at the same time," was the thinking here. Don't think they realized they'd also be driving the value to zero.

Exactly what I meant indeed. They probably thought how nice and how much cost-savings they were gonna get.

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Post by Hoasi »

Hoasi wrote: post #205
figassis wrote: post #173

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I think you mean "We can drive the cost of a service towards zero and create additional value at the same time," was the thinking here. Don't think they realized they'd also be driving the value to zero.

Exactly what I meant indeed. They probably thought how nice and how much cost-savings they were gonna get.

But they did ironically also drive the value they offered towards zero in this case ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Post by jmorenoamor »

OkayPhysicist wrote: post #164
citizenpaul wrote: post #163

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I really do think that this type of AI use is going to become a true life/death epidemic. The people at Deloitte are not generally dumb unmotivated people. They are ruthless $$ chasers and if AI is allowed they will use it to check the boxes and move onto the next paycheck. Many of these people will effectively have their life ruined. Many will likely take their own life. Its not just harmless paperwork fudging when…

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I need that in a tshirt, or a mug, or a billboard.

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Post by guywithahat »

AlotOfReading wrote: post #147
guywithahat wrote: post #141

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> CEOs keep taking (mostly misguided) about how GenAI will replace their people. The thing they miss, and this highlights, is that customers will also expect to pay far less for GenAI produced workloads, which likely more than eliminates any cost savings Is this bad? This seems good. The end goal being once it's cheaper, you can do more revenue. Also while I obviously don't stand by this Deloitte scandal when done ri…

"GenAI done right" comes across like the famously elusive "agile done properly" and "safe C". If everyone is holding it wrong, are they?

Most implementations of GenAI are done correctly from what I’ve seen. A huge amount of production code is written by AI, and I use it every day because it’s fast and significantly improves my productivity.
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