Larry Ellison – 'citizens will be on their best behavior' amid nonstop recording

Post by computerthings » Mon, Sep 29, 2025, 9:06 PM UTC

andsoitis wrote: post #119

ddq wrote: post #84

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We stop collaborating. Technologists, engineers, and support staff make this machine run. It must be made personally infeasible to continue contributing to our own shortsighted destruction. The incentive structure can and must be changed.

> We stop collaborating. Technologists, engineers, and support staff make this machine run. "We" don't all view the world through the same lens. And moreover not on all matters. Your framing is erroneous, which leads to incorrect assumptions and strategy.

Post by gspetr » Mon, Sep 29, 2025, 9:23 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #47

koolba wrote: post #39

I encourage people making snap comments to read at least one entire paragraph of the article: > “We’re going to have supervision,” Ellison said. “Every police officer is going to be supervised at all times, and if there’s a problem, AI will report that problem and report it to the appropriate person. Citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that’s going on.”…

> People do act differently when they know they are being watched I really want to see more evidence for this. People act differently when they face consequences. More surveillance without enforcement wouldn’t be expected to positively change behaviour.

    Primates: Monkeys and apes often alter their social interactions and grooming behaviors when they know they are being observed by humans or other primates.
    Birds: Studies have shown that birds may change their foraging behavior when they detect human presence, often becoming more cautious.
    Fish: Some fish species exhibit changes in swimming patterns and social behavior when they sense they are being watched.

Post by Agraillo » Mon, Sep 29, 2025, 11:18 PM UTC

Post by limpbizkitfan » Tue, Sep 30, 2025, 1:56 AM UTC

andsoitis wrote: post #116

lupusreal wrote: post #105

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How could Ellison's motivation for creating a surveillance state possibly not be relevant?

> How could Ellison's motivation for creating a surveillance state possibly not be relevant? What is his motivation? Why is Israel relevant?

Post by rsynnott » Tue, Sep 30, 2025, 7:47 AM UTC

billy99k wrote: post #194

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Is your contention that the only anti-gun countries are, er, the UK and Singapore? And to be honest, the UK surveillance thing is somewhat exaggerated; it's highly London-centric, and they're mostly privately-owned cameras; the main driving factor is the insurance industry. Ireland, say, has some of the strictest gun laws in the developed world, and doesn't have a large number of CCTVs or other forms of surveillance.

"And to be honest, the UK surveillance thing is somewhat exaggerated; it's highly London-centric, and they're mostly privately-owned cameras; the main driving factor is the insurance industry." The big cities is where the most crime happens. It's not really 'exaggerated'. If you legally aren't allowed to protect yourself during a crime, it's best to have a camera in place that catches the person that's doing it (and…