Zed's Pricing Has Changed: LLM Usage Is Now Token-Based • Hacker News Board

Re: Zed's Pricing Has Changed: LLM Usage Is Now Token-Based

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Post by rexpop » Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 3:47 PM UTC

lemontheme wrote: post #186

Since the VC investment by Sequoia I’ve had my doubts about Zed. For one thing, a certain high-profile member of that VC publicly promotes a worldview that does not align with mine. For another, I’ve had it with my favorite products constantly enshittifying. I’d always seen my subscription more as a recurring donation toward development anyway, so I canceled it. That said, Zed continues to impress. The editor itself,…

Are you referring to Shaun Maguire remarks labeling Zohran Mamdani an "Islamist"?

Then you'll love that a16z general partner Katherine Boyle went on Bari Weiss's[0] podcast[1] to help spin the Charlie Kirk martyrdom narrative.

0. https://www.thenation.com/article/society/bari-weiss-free-pr...

1. And syndicated it, themselves: https://a16z.simplecast.com/episodes/charlie-kirk-and-the-ri...

Re: Zed's Pricing Has Changed: LLM Usage Is Now Token-Based

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Post by hmokiguess » Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 4:13 PM UTC

rtfeldman wrote: post #198

hmokiguess wrote: post #196

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The roadmap on the other hand seems to have 4 things tagged AI on it. https://zed.dev/roadmap The blog used to be really personal and nice but now it's all AI https://zed.dev/blog I get it, pausing some work to ship AI integration plumbing is a good strategy to keep momentum up with competition. I think after their Series B, looking at the roadmap, and now with this pricing featured it's pretty clear what their prior…

> I get it, pausing some work to ship AI integration plumbing is a good strategy to keep momentum up with competition. By every metric - lines of code shipped, hours per week spent on it, number of people assigned to it, etc. - AI is a minority part of what Zed does. It's a priority, but it's not the priority. I know there's a disproportionate amount of blogging about AI, but that's a decision about what prose gets w…

Appreciate your reassurance on this, and I believe this is indeed _currently_ the case.

My worry is on the direction and positioning as it stands _now_ when looking _out_.

I guess time will tell, and I have no problems being wrong here. In fact I even desire to be wrong.

Excited to see what DeltaDB is all about and how it affects the company direction too, especially now with Sequoia pulling some strings.

Re: Zed's Pricing Has Changed: LLM Usage Is Now Token-Based

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Post by fatata123 » Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 4:59 PM UTC

rtfeldman wrote: post #177

klaussilveira wrote: post #99

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I feel like Zed stopped working on the editor itself since AI was rolled out. I also wanted it to be the open-source alternative to Sublime, but nothing comes close.

A quick glance at Zed's changelog is all it takes to see that AI has been a minority of what Zed has shipped since it was rolled out over a year ago. :) https://zed.dev/releases/stable (And that's even with almost none of the work on the massive Windows project being included in the changelog!)

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Re: Zed's Pricing Has Changed: LLM Usage Is Now Token-Based

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Post by porridgeraisin » Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 5:22 PM UTC

stalfosknight wrote: post #200

porridgeraisin wrote: post #180

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OAI/Anthropic/Big AI players today never ever need to become profitable... The same way roads never need to become profitable by themselves. This per token charge is like tolls, it has nothing to do with the costs. AI, just like cloud was before this, is being treated as "infrastructure". The reason people invest in roads is not to make money from the road itself, but rather recuper all the losses from the new extrem…

Wasn't this the thinking behind the massive overbuilding of fiber in the 90s?

Yes, this was the thinking behind the telco boom(or bust depending on who you ask), cloud in the 2010s too, was the same.

Re: Zed's Pricing Has Changed: LLM Usage Is Now Token-Based

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Post by fdg4t » Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 6:38 PM UTC

dewey wrote: post #80

j_bum wrote: post #76

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VSCode is my go to for large text file interaction on macOS. TextEdit may be worth looking into as well? Haven’t tested it for large files before.

I have Sublime Text installed for the onlu use case of opening large files. Nothing comes close.

The open source CudaText has the same speed on opening huge files. It has slower rendering, but for huge files it is not the issue.