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Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by isaacremuant »

honzabe wrote: post #193

This discussion leans against sanctions, and I feel a bit uneasy about this. There are some good arguments, but still... can I try to offer a different point of view? I grew up in a country occupied by Russians. I really feel for the Ukrainians. Currently, there seems to be a social contract between Putin and middle-class Russians from Moscow and St. Petersburg - they will let him bomb Ukrainian civilians, as long as…

Your whole post is war propaganda to justify how "the enemy" needs to be blocked and attacked.

Analyze who have perpetrated most invasions ("military operations" if you like euphemisms) in the last 40 years and you'll be surprised who you'd need to "block" given your logic.

Of course, you won't block yourself because it's convenient to be a jingoist when it doesn't affect you.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by somezero »

NullCascade wrote: post #179

It is actually illegal for EU companies and organizations to boycott Iran. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_statute The EU has since the 1990s gone out of its way to support countries like Iran and Cuba against US/Israeli economic sanctions.

This is not just a funny joke, but also timely given the recent sanctions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_agains...

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by jbstack »

jeroenhd wrote: post #54

This crap is why everyone should fear the Apple-like centralisation for software distribution options that other companies like Google and Microsoft are inching towards. Now it's just Iran/Cuba/North Korea, but you're essentially letting the increasingly aggressive American government decide who can or cannot publish software. The Americans are not afraid of adding their political enemies from allied countries to the…

I completely agree, but what can actually be done about this? It feels like it's too late.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by [deleted] »

randomNumber7 wrote: post #150
LAC-Tech wrote: post #42

I talk to a few Iranians online. All very nice people. You'd think they had horns on their heads and cloven hooves the way certain people in the US talks about them. Even the regime itself.. look I wouldn't to live there. But comparing it to somewhere like North Korea is ridiculous. Even by Middle Eastern standards it's not at the bottom.

Yes its great. If you move there you can give away your daughter to be the 3.rd woman of s.o. at the age of 9.

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Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by stavros »

toolis wrote: post #169
slg wrote: post #64

>Iranian IPs are blocked here, due to your decision to arm Russia with drones so that they can indiscriminately massacre civilians. The "your decision" in that response is really off-putting. I know the law is what it is with sanctions like this. However, it is a failing of basic human empathy to blame other common citizens of a country for the actions of their government while we almost certainly do not endorse all…

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Well, this gives me license to be angry at all US voters then.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by lukan »

tgma wrote: post #164
sigmoid10 wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People here make it easy on themselves by blaming everything on "the government," but you should never underestimate the level of brainwashing. According to independent polls, it's more like 50% of Iranians still support their government. And it used to be closer to 80% a few years ago. I was lucky enough to be born into one of the wealthier nations, and our trust levels are much lower, despite our government doing n…

Independent polls? How do you conduct such a poll reliably when there are legitimate consequences in expressing you have a certain opinion?

Yup, same with "independent" polls in russia about war support. Some anonymous person claiming to be not government calls people and asks for their war support?

Who would give an honest answer here?

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by mschuster91 »

nlitened wrote: post #146
preisschild wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Nothing changed This is not true. The sanctions definitely hurt countries like Cuba or Russia. They have a far harder time growing their economy. Cuba is stuck in the last century and often has total blackouts that last for days. Russia needs to beg countries like Iran or North Korea now for imports.

Russian economy is booming actually, thanks to continued purchasing of oil and gas by Europe and other parts of the world, and the sanctions that block capital outflow out of the country.

> Russian economy is booming actually

Mostly the military, from what I hear. The rest of the economy is in shambles [1].

No matter what: once the war in Ukraine is over by whatever solution, it's going to get nasty. Either Putin (or, more likely, his successor - the dude is old and it's by far not sure if he will be able to stay in power should the war end up bad for Russia) manages to turn around the economy once again from producing tanks and other instruments of war to a regular economy, or they'll keep it that way... and attack another country with all that firepower.

[1] https://kyivindependent.com/amid-dwindling-economy-number-of...

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by aussieguy1234 »

vasco wrote: post #61
adastra22 wrote: post #20

OP, some context from the other side might be helpful. Yes, there are fines for American companies if they do business with Iranians. That's how sanctions work as I'm sure you're aware. But the story doesn't stop there. If an American finds out they are transacting with a sanctioned individual, or citizens of a sanctioned country like Iran or North Korea, the stakes go up: $1M USD fine and up to 20 years in federal p…

In all of these situations if you want to do the right thing you need plausible deniability. Network block IPs from Iran, don't block VPNs, done, users from sanctioned countries can use your software but you're also going by the rule.

This also has plausible deniability on the other side. If Iranian government thugs question a citizens VPN use to access subversive content (women's rights, LGBT content?), they can say it was to evade US sanctions, wether true or not.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by cylemons »

randomNumber7 wrote: post #126
tobyhinloopen wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Proudly written from a western country with a functional democracy. If it was that easy, there wouldn't be shitty countries everywhere.

I live in a western democracy and still endorse very little my government does.

At least in a democracy, you can rest assured that your government is supported by big part of the population, should sanctions hit them too hard they will vote the other way and get out of sanctions quickly. But in dictatorship you are just stuck with whatever the supreme leader and their cronies think is a good idea
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