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Post by Fade_Dance »

taneq wrote: post #181
dgfitz wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> confused the AI. I will die on this hill. It isn’t AI. You can’t confuse it.

Ok, you’ve piqued my interest. What’s required in order for something to be genuinely confused?

Just try asking an AI about the Seahorse Emoji (insert close-yet-comically-incorrect emojis since they won't render here):

_________

ChatGPT: There is a seahorse emoji: — wait, no, that’s a lobster. Okay, for real now:

Here it is: � Seahorse — argh, it’s still not showing properly here.

Let’s try again:

(hedgehog) (sauropod) (T-rex) (otter) (seal) (lobster) …but no actual (squid) or (mermaid) matches…

Okay, deep breath — I checked the official Unicode list. And you’re right: The seahorse emoji does exist — it’s — no, okay really:

(hedgehog) (hippo) (peacock) Still nothing?

Wait — turns out, I was wrong, and you’re right to call me out.

There is a seahorse emoji:

— no!

_________

https://ibb.co/GfpWRXCz

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Post by x0x0 »

pessimizer wrote: post #106
smelendez wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was my thought — the memory might not have been properly cleared from the last rehearsal. I found the use case honestly confusing though. This guy has a great kitchen, just made steak, and has all the relevant ingredients in house and laid out but no idea how to turn them into a sauce for his sandwich?

Yes. Even if the demo worked perfectly, it's hopelessly contrived. Just get text-to-speech to slowly read you the recipe.

You could imagine some utility to something that actually worked if it allowed you to continue working / not have to clean a hand and get your phone out while cooking. (Not a ton of utility, but some). But if it stumbles over basic questions, I just can't see how it's better than opening a recipe and leaning your phone against the backsplash.

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Post by AdieuToLogic »

jayd16 wrote: post #107
dgfitz wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> confused the AI. I will die on this hill. It isn’t AI. You can’t confuse it.

They "poisoned the context" which is clearly what they meant.

>>> confused the AI.

>> I will die on this hill. It isn’t AI. You can’t confuse it.

> They "poisoned the context" which is clearly what they meant.

The "demo" was clearly prescriptive and not genuinely interactive. One could easily make the argument that the kayfabe was more like an IVR[0] interaction.

0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive_voice_response

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Post by barnabyjones »

zelphirkalt wrote: post #94
twothreeone wrote: post #37

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Mark's definitely mastered optimizing for peak cringe factor while at 1.95T valuation.

They just need an emotionless android without conscience, who does whatever is in the best interest of raking in money. They don't need technological excellence. Whether people at his company technologically succeed or fail, what matters is, that the company processes all the PII and feeds the algorithms. The rest is just for show.

I think such an emotionless android would have diligently prepared numerous backup scripts, sets of lenses, actors, demonstrations etc. to cover any failure contingency, since the cost of that is infinitesimal compared to even a slight change in their brand value.

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Post by MyOutfitIsVague »

taneq wrote: post #181
dgfitz wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> confused the AI. I will die on this hill. It isn’t AI. You can’t confuse it.

Ok, you’ve piqued my interest. What’s required in order for something to be genuinely confused?

The ability to think. If it can't think in the first place, it can't get confused. Whether it's "real AI" or not depends on semantics of that you consider AI to be:

* If you think it's something that resembles intelligence enough to be useful in the same way intelligence is and to seem to be intelligence, this is clearly it. The "plant based meats" of AI.

* If you think it means actual intelligence that was manufactured by a human, this is not that. It's shockingly impressive auto correct, and it's useful, but it's not actually thinking. This would be "artificially created intelligence"; in essence, real intelligence with an artificial origin. The lab grown meat of AI.

For the latter, I really think it needs reasoning ability that isn't based on language. Plenty of animals can think and reason without depending on language. Language is a great carrier of intelligence, which is why LLMs work so well, but language is not the foundation of intelligence.

That said, I think "confused" is a fine enough anthropomorphization. I refer to things like Bluetooth issues as the machine getting confused all the time. Back in the day, Netflix would often have problems with the wrong image showing for a show, and I called that "Netflix getting confused". We know it's not actually getting confused.

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Post by dxxmxnd »

mupuff1234 wrote: post #168
jerlam wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's almost certainly a joke. Everyone knows that the demo failed.

Certainly didnt seem like a joke.

Its definitely a joke. They were saying it again when the WhatsApp call failed. They were being sarcastic.

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Post by Barbing »

Teleoflexuous wrote: post #137

There's a simple explanation that isn't 'prerecorded'. I'd be very happy to accuse Meta of faking a demo, but that's 1) just a weird way to fake a demo and 2) effect that has easier explanation. You ask AI how to do something. AI generates steps to do that thing. It has concept of steps, so that when you go 'back' it goes back to the last step. As you ask how to do something, it finishes explaining general idea and g…

I'd figured it performed image recognition on the scene visible to it, then told the language model it could see various ingredients including some combined in a bowl.

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Post by yieldcrv »

twothreeone wrote: post #45
ryandrake wrote: post #11

I love how they randomly blame the WiFi network, like anyone is going to buy it.

Somebody said the cooking guy was some influencer person? I noticed that many non-tech people often resort to this excuse, even in situations where it makes absolutely no sense (e.g., on a desktop with only ethernet, or with mic/speakers connected via cable). It's almost like they just substitute "bad wifi" for "glitch".

I often ask clarifying questions to people, to me its part of casual conversation, not an inquisition or anything (because my own behavior would be different if it was)

The vast majority of people say incoherent deflections instead of just saying “I don’t know”

I’m getting better at ignoring or playing along

It just happens in areas I least expect it

makes me sound like a high functioning autist, but I’m not convinced

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Post by gonyanghn »

pera wrote: post #2

There is a second part that is equally bad, but with Zuck: https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1nkbqyk/...

This is what it has come to? This is artificial intelligence? Billions and billions of dollars spent to narrate a recipe? Something that can be written down on a piece of paper?
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