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Re: Grove.io shutting down

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Post by sbarre »

nnnnni wrote: post #194
sbarre wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also wish they would address: 1) why not open source the project? 2) why not look for someone to take it over and run it? I also have a hard time seeing how something like this could be at the very least not break-even (unless they had less than 10 paying customers or something).

From Leah at grove.io: Hi, Thanks for your interest in Grove. Unfortunately we won't be open sourcing the code due to the time and effort it would take to prepare and maintain it. Thanks for understanding, Leah

That's a weak answer. Just put it out there, let other people maintain it.

Not that I'm saying they have to release it (I respect their right to do whatever they want with their own work), but as far as reasons to not release something, that's pretty weak.

Re: Grove.io shutting down

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Post by Jaigus »

tswicegood wrote: post #154
niggler wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because something should have paying customers doesn't necessarily mean that it has paying customers. There are other factors involved. Better put: are you a paying customer? If not, then most likely other potential customers are unaware.

FWIW, I was a paying customer. I know others who were as well. Most everyone I know, including myself as of two weeks ago, has stopped paying for the service. It had gone downhill to the point of being unusable. There is a demand for this type of service. Real-time chat is in extremely high demand still. Chat was the number one requested feature a "build-you-own" social network startup I worked at a handful of years…

I'm not doubting what you say, but I'm interested in how the service went downhill?

Re: Grove.io shutting down

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Post by jaseemabid »

ricardobeat wrote: post #44
Rayne wrote: post #7

It's getting a little difficult to trust stuff by Leah Culver. Everything (that I know of) that she has done so far has either shut down or been acquired and shut down. That said, no hard feelings. It's hard out there. I've never tried to run a company, so I can't judge.

The funny part is that http://convore.com/ redirects to grove.io with the shutdown notice :)

So damn true. Soon grove will add such a notice

Re: Grove.io shutting down

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Post by smsisgay »

pbiggar wrote: post #167
jdoss wrote: post #47

Here is why this failed... Anyone with half a brain is going to be able to: * run their own IRC server * run a XMPP server ( cough openfire) * Sign up for another service that has more features (Campfire or Hipchat) Not to be mean, but the pricing on grove.io is stupid for what they offer. I run a XMPP server at work and costs us nothing for the basics, which is group chat and private chat. They could have offered th…

> I run a XMPP server at work and costs us nothing for the basics It sounds like it costs at least 1 server, plus your time. Those are not free.

it's unlikely the server exists solely for xmpp.

adding an xmpp server (prosody) to a box adds infinitesimal cost and load.

sms is COSTLY FOLLY

Re: Grove.io shutting down

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Post by smsisgay »

jdoss wrote: post #47

Here is why this failed... Anyone with half a brain is going to be able to: * run their own IRC server * run a XMPP server ( cough openfire) * Sign up for another service that has more features (Campfire or Hipchat) Not to be mean, but the pricing on grove.io is stupid for what they offer. I run a XMPP server at work and costs us nothing for the basics, which is group chat and private chat. They could have offered th…

a zero you-cost alternative is hosted xmpp server: merely add a few Resource Records to yer zone.
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