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Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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> every fraction of a second matters That was not true otherwise you wouldn't get stuck with the most unergonomic keys mandating moving your hands off their resting place. > selecting all files ... : one flick of the right hand The common Ctrl+A is better, no flick, just shifting a single thumb > F6 with the left hand followed by another Enter immediately with the right hand Or still same single hand Ctrl+Shift+X (or…

> the most unergonomic keys mandating moving your hands off their resting place Touch typists always have to get their dig in. I've been using vim for 5 years now and still use up/dn/lf/rt - it's easier to find in a tactile manner with the right keyboard and makes MUCH more sense to the brain than hjkl. It's like 80ms travel, worst case. Even the gaming community got this more correct with wasd, in terms of key posit…

> it's easier to find in a tactile manner

It isn't because your resting keys require NO finding, so will always be easier.

> makes MUCH more sense to the brain than hjkl > Even the gaming community got this more correct with wasd, in terms of key positions that make sense to the brain

Don't repeat the ancient hjkl mistake? What does your brain say to this simple counter? But more importantly, how does any of the numpad+/F6 nonsense follow from the fact that you can improve within the letters?

> It's like 80ms travel

I bet you didn't really time anything in real use, especially not the return timing to go back to the base, which will take you longer. But more importantly, go convince the "every fraction of a second matters" guy first. To me the lack of design logic/convenience is enough.

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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I love Midnight Commander so much; I install it on every system I use. It's so much more efficient/pleasant when in comes to navigating the filesystem and doing basic operations, especially when you learn the shortcuts and learn how to use it along with other command-line tools (hint: if you press Ctrl+O in MC it will switch to a normal shell command prompt it the directory you're in, and you can press Ctrl+O again t…

Can you reference the file that was modified latest by me? With one shortcut? Because that's what I miss most in my shell.

You mean something like

    print -rl -- *(om[1].)
in zsh?

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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post #202

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Can you reference the file that was modified latest by me? With one shortcut? Because that's what I miss most in my shell.

You mean something like print -rl -- *(om[1].) in zsh?

No, I mean globally (over all directories, starting from my home directory).

And of course, if the latest file isn't what I wanted, then it should be possible to easily go to the latest file before that.

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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post #199
post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> every fraction of a second matters That was not true otherwise you wouldn't get stuck with the most unergonomic keys mandating moving your hands off their resting place. > selecting all files ... : one flick of the right hand The common Ctrl+A is better, no flick, just shifting a single thumb > F6 with the left hand followed by another Enter immediately with the right hand Or still same single hand Ctrl+Shift+X (or…

> the most unergonomic keys mandating moving your hands off their resting place Touch typists always have to get their dig in. I've been using vim for 5 years now and still use up/dn/lf/rt - it's easier to find in a tactile manner with the right keyboard and makes MUCH more sense to the brain than hjkl. It's like 80ms travel, worst case. Even the gaming community got this more correct with wasd, in terms of key posit…

Fun fact: hjkl are in the same order as the arrows on screen in Dance Dance Revolution.

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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post #184

I have fond memories for mc during my transition from Windows and trying to replace DOS Navigator and Far Manager with something similar. Started to use ranger a long ago though and never came back.

Went through the same process but ended up with Far clone on Linux called far-2l. Wouldn't say it's great (I miss many plugins) but it's def good enough for me.

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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I've always found Midnight Commander to be underrated, perhaps because it "looks old". I still recommend checking it out if you want a terminal-based file manager. In case you do prefer GUIs, consider DoubleCommander.

It's not so bad once you change the skin to non-default ones. I like the yadt256 skin.

Re: GNU Midnight Commander

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> ESC was supposed to work immediately, not after a delay. It's not mc's fault, the Escape delay is added by the terminal emulator, to correctly handle escape sequences. You can probably configure it, but the most portable way that works everywhere is to simply press it twice quickly. It's only barely slower than the DOS way of doing it, and much faster than pressing and waiting for a second.

This should have been solved in the last 30 years on Linux console, X terminal emulators and through SSH.

The kitty key protocol solves this, but your app and terminal need to support it. Many do.
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