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Staring at a “you can no longer do business with PayPal” email myself. No clue what I did, no recourse, now locked out of a fuckton of global marketplaces and peer to peer transactions that uniquely only work on a platform like PayPal.
you should get a lawyer and try to sue in small claims court, it is the fastest path vs. anything they will surface to you. even by saying this I put myself at risk but they are truly a demonic organization s/demonic/pernicious
PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin
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#202Holding money (or crypto) in PayPal is a terrible idea. They are not a bank, they do not abide by banking regulations. They can lock you out of your account and your money at any time and leave you going in circles with their offshore support. Yes, they are somewhat of a necessary evil if you do any online peer-to-peer buying/selling, since they are the only money transfer service that provides some level of "buyer p…
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I have a virtual crypto card and gave it to my daughter and she added it to the Google wallet on her android. She uses it anywhere to buy anything. My bank didn't want to open bank account to minor. Everything was set up in 10 minutes. I transfer to her some random coins and it just works. I also use it myself as a backup abroad when my regular bank foreign account doesn't work for any reason. I got the card in the m…
Used everywhere to buy everything? Some serious evidence is required to support this claim. I bet she can't even buy candy at your neighbourhood convenience store.
I can buy anything anywhere. If it supports regular cards, it supports crypto card.
My first test was to buy candy btw in the local corner shop in the middle of nowhere.
It is really funny how people on HN can be so stubborn.
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I have a virtual crypto card and gave it to my daughter and she added it to the Google wallet on her android. She uses it anywhere to buy anything. My bank didn't want to open bank account to minor. Everything was set up in 10 minutes. I transfer to her some random coins and it just works. I also use it myself as a backup abroad when my regular bank foreign account doesn't work for any reason. I got the card in the m…
Your bank does not offer custodial or joint accounts?
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Used everywhere to buy everything? Some serious evidence is required to support this claim. I bet she can't even buy candy at your neighbourhood convenience store.
Dude... I can buy anything anywhere. If it supports regular cards, it supports crypto card. My first test was to buy candy btw in the local corner shop in the middle of nowhere. It is really funny how people on HN can be so stubborn.
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#206Re: PayPal to support Ethereum and Bitcoin
#207Holding money (or crypto) in PayPal is a terrible idea. They are not a bank, they do not abide by banking regulations. They can lock you out of your account and your money at any time and leave you going in circles with their offshore support. Yes, they are somewhat of a necessary evil if you do any online peer-to-peer buying/selling, since they are the only money transfer service that provides some level of "buyer p…
All very true, but banks are doing exactly the same thing, all while following banking regulation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38150606
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Dude... I can buy anything anywhere. If it supports regular cards, it supports crypto card. My first test was to buy candy btw in the local corner shop in the middle of nowhere. It is really funny how people on HN can be so stubborn.
Is it a Visa or Mastercard then?
You are welcome.
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Those are functions of a marketplace, a low-cost pseudo-legal system so that you hopefully avoid using a state's costly and slow legal system. But if marketplaces also own the medium of exchange, e.g. marketplaces that issue tokens and only allow transacting in tokens (Paypal behind the scenes), their economic incentive is not to resolve disputes, but to create as many barriers as possible to converting tokens back i…
"If only there was a technology which fixes this..." "Those are functions of a marketplace" Then it seems you should have said "If only there was a technology and a marketplace which fixes this..." And no, it doesn't exist because handling disputes is a hard problem. It's the actual moat of PayPal (and credit card companies) and the reason why they can get away with their crappy behaviour.
> No clue what I did, no recourse, now locked out of a fuckton of global marketplaces and peer to peer transactions that uniquely only work on a platform like PayPal.
I am not saying there is a single technology that is completely at parity without paypal without the problems, I'm saying that there is a technology which can give you access to global marketplaces and peer-to-peer transacting if you are locked out of the paypal/CC system.
And the payment processors don't have a moat in their sophistication in dispute resolution. This is a hard problem, but a solvable one if you have lots of liquidity: e.g Amazon, AliExpress. Their moat is having lots of liquidity, regulatory capture, and network effects.