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Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by whycome »

wffurr wrote: post #119
baby wrote: post #108

I switched to Android last year, from being a long time iPhone user, just for the fold. I got the google pixel fold 9 pro. I also got lucky as it's right when all the cool AI integration started (and it sounds like it doesn't really work on Apple). My first hand experience is that I will probably never be able to go back to a non-folding phone. The ability to get a small tablet on demand anywhere (subway, train, bed,…

>> android also doesn't have the same polish as iOS As someone who switched from using Android for many years to iOS for the iPhone Mini, this seems to be all about what you're used to. The lack of polish on iOS for many features, notifications and quick settings first among them, makes me crazy but not enough to deal with a huge phone. Android's had the notification shade with integrated settings since just about da…

Why are notifications on iOS such a nightmare? It’s impossible to properly read just a selection or to quickly dismiss many at once.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by whycome »

dotancohen wrote: post #173
abandonliberty wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was really surprised when I first got an iPhone. After all the hype about it being so intuitive and polished, it was just different. Some things better, some things worse. But Apple devices take a bit longer to go obsolete, and seem just a tiny bit less invasive as they don't rely on an advertising model for revenue.

For the few months that I had to use an iPhone in addition to my regular Android phone, I also tried to convince myself that some things were better and some things were worse. But the iOS keyboard was completely unusable for me as a power user, and it cannot be replaced. I was missing so many features of Gboard. I absolutely could not consider an iPhone or any other replacement phone for that matter, if it does not…

iOS must have changed some things related to keyboards. On an iPhone many years ago it was definitely a better experience. I’m not sure if some sort of predictive text gets in the way or what. Or maybe something with the spacing. Or it also seems like some sort of thread priority issue because there are times where I can distinctly tell that there’s some sort of input lag that’s messing with it.

Gboard is crippled on iOS — why can’t we just have a damn comma on the main screen?! And why can't I just get my keyboard to be at the very bottom of my screen.

It's 2025 and we have gone so far backward.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by whycome »

sanswork wrote: post #178
dotancohen wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the few months that I had to use an iPhone in addition to my regular Android phone, I also tried to convince myself that some things were better and some things were worse. But the iOS keyboard was completely unusable for me as a power user, and it cannot be replaced. I was missing so many features of Gboard. I absolutely could not consider an iPhone or any other replacement phone for that matter, if it does not…

You can install gboard on iPhones, I've been using it for several years on one.

It's crippled though. You can't do something simple like have the comma on main view.

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Post by wraptile »

joshlemer wrote: post #142
wraptile wrote: post #2

I just bought a 2nd hand Fold 6 for 800$ and I'm not going back to slab phones ever. Primarily because I've never done as much reading as I've done in the past month with this phone. Removal of friction here has been such a game changer when it comes to productive use of my phone - now when I would doom scroll otherwise I just unfold my phone and do a bit of reading. The only drawback is the camera but turns out it's…

Which app do you use to read?

Play Books is actually really underrated! It's quite minimal, cross platform with cloud state and does everything really well. One cool unique feature I found is that it can sync notes and highlights straight to a google drive folder.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by ewoodrich »

wffurr wrote: post #119
baby wrote: post #108

I switched to Android last year, from being a long time iPhone user, just for the fold. I got the google pixel fold 9 pro. I also got lucky as it's right when all the cool AI integration started (and it sounds like it doesn't really work on Apple). My first hand experience is that I will probably never be able to go back to a non-folding phone. The ability to get a small tablet on demand anywhere (subway, train, bed,…

>> android also doesn't have the same polish as iOS As someone who switched from using Android for many years to iOS for the iPhone Mini, this seems to be all about what you're used to. The lack of polish on iOS for many features, notifications and quick settings first among them, makes me crazy but not enough to deal with a huge phone. Android's had the notification shade with integrated settings since just about da…

I've been using an iPhone I got from a carrier deal for the last year after using Android phones since the T-Mobile G1, and the notification shade drives me insane on iOS. Notifications in general are so much more annoying to deal with on iOS vs Android. For the love of god please just let me clear all notifications!

Also, how Apple seems to deliberately avoid including a shortcut to the full settings anywhere in the control center or the shade. It honestly feels like one of those stubborn Apple things where at one point they decided Android including a settings shortcut (gear icon on the shade) was somehow an admission that its quick actions were poorly designed and iOS is above that.

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Post by sanswork »

jahnu wrote: post #191
sanswork wrote: post #178

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You can install gboard on iPhones, I've been using it for several years on one.

Interesting that it hasn’t been updated in three years.

It's pretty terrible but it's still the best of what I've tried. Given the progress in LLMs the autocomplete/autocorrect choices and word suggestions are laughably bad. Swype and the MS one though still managed to be worse

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by sanswork »

whycome wrote: post #203
sanswork wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can install gboard on iPhones, I've been using it for several years on one.

It's crippled though. You can't do something simple like have the comma on main view.

Is that an iPhone restriction or is that Google not maintaining a product?

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by seec »

noosphr wrote: post #180
seec wrote: post #166

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Hey I'll take that as a compliment. I'll say this: I live in France and when Apple announced the first iPhone, I imported it from the US at great costs. So, it's not like if I am a luddite, I'm just able to understand what's good and useful while you may not.

The iPhone was released nearly 20 years ago. This would be like someone in 2007 bragging that they aren't a Luddite because they bought windows 1.0 when it came out.

What are you even saying? It's funny you think I'm bragging.

Here is the thing, people are buying foldables only to show off, the functionality/usefulness makes no sense for the vast majority of people. Which is why they are still expensive and it will stay that way.

Even tech reviewers with infinite choices and zero affordability issues are not using them. If they were any good, they would be using them daily, but it's not the case.

What I'm saying about the first iPhone is that it was good and useful on release day, even though it was a flawed product missing many things that would only come later. And the cost wasn't a problem.

We have had many generations of foldables with improvement/refinements everywhere and they are still nowhere close to being ubiquitous or mainstream. At its 4th generation, Apple was selling 50 million iPhones globally even though it was one of the most expensive phones you could buy. We are in the 6th or 7th generation of foldable and they are not reaching anywhere near those numbers. Even if the price would come close to a regular smartphone it's doubtful that most would pay up because there are other compromises.

Fundamentally, foldables are niche products for tech geeks or people who like to show off, they will stay niche, just like VR and 3D before them.

I have been right on both of those before, do you want to make a bet?

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