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TikTok has turned culture into a feedback loop of impulse and machine learning

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Re: TikTok has turned culture into a feedback loop of impulse and machine learning

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Too simple of a narrative. At the same time, YouTube videos are getting longer, and people are watching more YouTube videos on TVs than on mobile devices: https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradadgate/2025/02/12/launched-... So I think we're seeing more of a bifurcation: in-depth longform videos are becoming 30, 40, 60, even 90 minutes long, whereas anything shorter than 10 minutes is being compressed to 30-60 seconds. The…

This checks out. I find myself watching more youtube videos anywhere from WW2 restored footage, to Bloodborne and Elden Ring lore. There is some great documentary style content on youtube that just isn't on major streaming services. Well at least that I can find.

Re: TikTok has turned culture into a feedback loop of impulse and machine learning

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Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

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Re: TikTok has turned culture into a feedback loop of impulse and machine learning

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IF there will be “lengthy” movies.

There a stock of older movies though, bigger than I can watch in a lifetime, and that's just considering the good ones.

Sure, that can work.

One would want to watch also contemporary works.

Re: TikTok has turned culture into a feedback loop of impulse and machine learning

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It’s ads for the generation that didn’t grow up with no-choice broadcast advertising.

They said the same thing about us (GenXers) when we were young: MTV was killing our attention spans with short music videos.

Money for nothin and your chicks for free.

Re: TikTok has turned culture into a feedback loop of impulse and machine learning

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The idea that long form = good is absurd and this type of thinking shows how over-confident this author is in their own intelligence. Information compression and storage is the baseline of our species evolution.

Ahh, it seems I made my comment too short. I don't think that long-form content is always superior to short, but I do think overconsumption of short-form content reduces peoples' ability to handle irreducible complexity.

Agree the act of compression itself is likely a huge part of intelligence.

Also appreciate the joke.

Re: TikTok has turned culture into a feedback loop of impulse and machine learning

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For me, the worst part is that it is so hard to go back to previous forms of media. I often delete these short form content apps in an effort to quit them, but it is now so difficult to get engaged with "slower" forms of media. The thing with Tiktok isn't the length of the media, it's just how fast-paced and "catchy" it is. I could watch an hour long fast paced video just fine, but watching a slow paced show, or read…

What if you are reading an interesting book ? I think it would be a great way to train your attention to the level it used to be. And if you can’t even do that, I suggest you start reading a book right before sleeping until you pass out. Every night. You will fall asleep extremely fast at beginning but I managed to get back to reading while having extreme difficulty concentrating from a completely different illness t…

Doing this, I always sleep better as well :)

Re: TikTok has turned culture into a feedback loop of impulse and machine learning

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Worth mentioning that literally any video under 60 seconds is forced to be a short, which is that stupid type of YouTube video where they remove a bunch of controls and make the overall experience miserable. So maybe that’s pushing longer-form content as well. Some people making 30 second videos moves to 90 second ones to avoid the bad format, this crowds the format and pushes others up as well? Totally talking out o…

YouTube has been pushing for longer videos for a while now. I believe it has to do with getting more money for ads. I remember YouTube updated their guidelines suggesting creators to create longer videos (10+ minutes for better monetization) I couldn't find a source (other than my memory) though, the earliest I could find is a reddit post from 2016 https://www.reddit.com/r/PartneredYoutube/comments/4v6bmy/wh...

More or less there was a shift in how Youtube allocated ad revenue, where instead of paying per view on any video over 10 minutes, they pay based on watch time alone (which makes sense with how they added mid-roll ads instead of just pre-roll ads). This incentivized longer videos, or at least didn't penalize them, but then more recently there was another shift in their recommendation algorithm to push these videos harder (I suspect because they found it increased watch time and thus ad impressions overall), and that really pushed the long-form videos into the mainstream.

Re: TikTok has turned culture into a feedback loop of impulse and machine learning

#208

This post popped up a blocking window before I was even 3 sentences in, so maybe unsurprising that I clicked away in less than 60 seconds. If the author wants people to read whatever it is they have to say, maybe they should not put distractions in front of their writing?

Thanks for the feedback :)

I appreciate your humility, it's hard sometimes to post things online when people are very blunt and unfiltered with their criticism of one's work.

Re: TikTok has turned culture into a feedback loop of impulse and machine learning

#209

Too simple of a narrative. At the same time, YouTube videos are getting longer, and people are watching more YouTube videos on TVs than on mobile devices: https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradadgate/2025/02/12/launched-... So I think we're seeing more of a bifurcation: in-depth longform videos are becoming 30, 40, 60, even 90 minutes long, whereas anything shorter than 10 minutes is being compressed to 30-60 seconds. The…

Yes, but who.

Re: TikTok has turned culture into a feedback loop of impulse and machine learning

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I won't even look at a youtube video essay about an obscure vintage RPG (my preferred form of guilty pleasure viewing) if it's under 20 minutes long.

In my case, YouTube has figured out that I love Pokemon videos where the streamer does really silly things with old Pokemon games (like resetting the emulator 9001 times to find a shiny in order to have a full on Shiny only pokedex, including the starter pokemon. In my case I don't care how long the videos are though.

Easier than soft resetting for real I guess. An ex used to be into that, it always seemed mind numbing to me but perhaps it's almost therapeutic for others.
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