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Re: iPhone dumbphone

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post #97

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> I need Jira, Slack, and GitHub during work hours for example. So do I, but I certainly don't need them on my phone. For the longest time the only work app I had on my phone was some 2FA thing. Then asked them to either buy me a phone or a yubikey. I got a yubikey (and my phone complete free from anything work related).

I tried this for a bunch of work apps that require 2FA. They pushed back hard enough where I was threatened with getting written up. I relented and installed MS Authenticator on my personal phone. I'm still bitter about the intrusion of work stuff on my personal phone.

Have you considered https://authenticator.cc/ ?

I realize it is amusing to even consider offloading OTP generation to a web browser extension however, if `$work` doesn’t want to provide you with the correct hardware (e.g. Yubikey, NitroKey, etc.) there are boundary-respecting alternatives

Re: iPhone dumbphone

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Interesting idea to use Apple Configurator, I like it! I use a combination of uninstalling any interesting apps + Foqos + One Sec + grayscale. This works pretty well for me, and the key part is Foqos, which is FOSS that allows you to disable certain apps or features with the scan of a QR code or NFC tag. I keep the QR code / NFC tag in a separate building or locked box, so there's real friction if I want to scan it t…

greyscale is a game changer. i wasn’t a believer until i forced myself to use it, but it really turns off the appeal. have you ever seen someone just staring at their phone and flipping through the home screen(s)?

Re: iPhone dumbphone

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post #193

> Maybe you’re at a restaurant and they need you to open a website for example. You may end up having to bug some people around you for their phone. It can be annoying but I haven’t found this to be too troublesome. I have been using a profile-based restricted iPhone setup for about 6 months now, and this has been the biggest holdup for me. I've pretty successfully blocked almost everything distracting, but I'm prett…

They have menus. Every place I’ve been to (post-Covid) that tries to force the “use-your-phone” thing brought me a menu when I asked and said I didn’t have my phone.

Re: iPhone dumbphone

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I don't understand why people leave email notifications enabled. There is almost no email I get that needs instant action. The one exception is delivery notifications, so I can retrieve the package immediately, and I used a filter to get notifications just for those.

You can set email notifications (or any app) to deliver quietly. I made this change years ago for email and some social apps. You can go through the notifications when you check your phone but aren't distracted with it vibrating on every email.

Re: iPhone dumbphone

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I don't understand why people leave email notifications enabled. There is almost no email I get that needs instant action. The one exception is delivery notifications, so I can retrieve the package immediately, and I used a filter to get notifications just for those.

> There is almost no email I get that needs instant action. Different people get different e-mails. Also, some people just don't check e-mail otherwise. Why would they? Notifications tell them the 5 times a day they get a new e-mail, so they don't need to manually check their e-mail 2-3 times a day. It actually makes a lot of sense. Notifications mean you never have to check your e-mail.

I’m a little confused by these comments about not checking stuff unless you get a notification.

Do you get notified of every article on HN that you read? Or what about YouTube or other content that you consume?

I’ve had email notifications turned off for years, and have no problem checking my email once or twice a day, just to see if there’s anything worth reading. (Spoiler alert: there almost never is.)

Just like HN, and a couple forums that I visit. I’ll check occasionally to see what’s going on.

For all of these things, it’s never anything urgent or time sensitive. Even if I went a couple days without checking, it’d be fine.

If somebody needs to reach me for anything time sensitive (outside of work), there’s SMS (with notifications) or phone (of course, notifications).

I think much of the issue with these comments — and this whole thread, in general — boils down to:

1. People use things outside of SMS and phone for time sensitive things (solution: move time sensitive things to SMS/phone)

2. People overestimate the criticality/time sensitivity of these things sending notifications

I’d rather check my email (or other X app) once or twice a day, if that, and catch up on low priority things, rather than get interrupted 5-10 times a day for these low priority things.

Re: iPhone dumbphone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is almost no email I get that needs instant action. Different people get different e-mails. Also, some people just don't check e-mail otherwise. Why would they? Notifications tell them the 5 times a day they get a new e-mail, so they don't need to manually check their e-mail 2-3 times a day. It actually makes a lot of sense. Notifications mean you never have to check your e-mail.

I’m a little confused by these comments about not checking stuff unless you get a notification. Do you get notified of every article on HN that you read? Or what about YouTube or other content that you consume? I’ve had email notifications turned off for years, and have no problem checking my email once or twice a day, just to see if there’s anything worth reading. (Spoiler alert: there almost never is.) Just like HN…

> I’d rather check my email (or other X app) once or twice a day, if that, and catch up on low priority things, rather than get interrupted 5-10 times a day for these low priority things.

Nobody's saying you're wrong. That's great.

I'm just saying there are also people who are the opposite, and their way of doing it is also valid and works great for them.

Also, stuff on HN and YouTube isn't for you personally, and it doesn't need your reply, so it's not really an analogy for personal messages.

Re: iPhone dumbphone

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post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I need Jira, Slack, and GitHub during work hours for example. So do I, but I certainly don't need them on my phone. For the longest time the only work app I had on my phone was some 2FA thing. Then asked them to either buy me a phone or a yubikey. I got a yubikey (and my phone complete free from anything work related).

I tried this for a bunch of work apps that require 2FA. They pushed back hard enough where I was threatened with getting written up. I relented and installed MS Authenticator on my personal phone. I'm still bitter about the intrusion of work stuff on my personal phone.

No one tells you because they want you to use their app but most can be replaced by floss apps running on your laptop.
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