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AI surveillance should be banned while there is still time

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Re: AI surveillance should be banned while there is still time

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As an American, it's funny how ahead and "first world" the US can be in some things, but how backwards and "developing country" the US can be in other things. Medicine itself is very first-world. But medical insurance is one of those "worse than developing country" things. The fact that Americans need medical insurance at all is appalling to many countries, first world and otherwise. And of course, by funny I mean "I…

Which things are the US ahead in?

Immigration

Re: AI surveillance should be banned while there is still time

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Protected chats? The ship already sailed, text messages via the phone network are already MITM'd since a very long time. Even in real life, the police in the UK now deploy active face recognition and makes tonnes of arrests based on it (sometimes wrongly). Shops are now looking to deploy active face recognition to detect shoplifters (although it's unclear legally what they will actually do about it). The UK can compe…

No devices, no passwords were ever required of any of us (yet). We deliberately walked into this, we can walk right back out again. Will we have to make do with less? (Did we really need it anyway?)

While I owned a cellphone, I never left the house with it. While using it, my location was always known.

None of this is terribly new. For decades our names and addresses were collected in telephone books (along with our numbers) that were given away to everyone. Telecorp doxxing. That too was involuntary.

The company whose buses I carded into (instead of paying cash) knew where I got on and got off. Once you get tuned into these 'services', you are in a position to limit their accuracy. That skill can be refined. We don't have to become predictable.

Re: AI surveillance should be banned while there is still time

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I expect we will continue to see the big AI companies pushing for privacy protections. Sam Altman made a comparison to attorney-client privilege in an interview. There is a significant hold out to using these things as fully trusted personal assistants or personal knowledge bases because of the lack of privacy. The only real solution is locally running models, but that goes against the business model. So instead they…

Sam "Harvest Your Biometric Data For A Scamcoin" Altman? Real trustworthy bloke, I'm sure. We should all buy some worldcoin by giving him our eye scans, in the name of privacy of course.

Re: AI surveillance should be banned while there is still time

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You get ads that actually interest you with targeted ads? You might be one of the only people with that experience. The whole meme with targeted ads is “I looked up toilet paper on Amazon once now I get ads for charmin all over the web”

I stopped using TikTok and Instagram because I was impulse purchasing too much stupid crap from their advertisement. So there are at least two of us out there.

What compelled you to buy any of that junk?

Re: AI surveillance should be banned while there is still time

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I'm banned from a few subreddits for correctly pointing out that ricing is not a pejorative, and the history of the culture that led to extreme customization. You have malevolent third-party bots taking advantage of poor moderation to conflate similar/same word different context pairs to silence communication. For example, the reddit AI bots considers "ricing" to be the same as "rice boy". The latter definitely is pe…

I thought you were going to point out distinct etymology, but these terms do seem linked, no? Not surprising that the shared lineage confers shared problems.

I had to Google it, but apparently it comes from cars, where a riced car has stripes and spoilers and such to make it look like a race car.

One source claimed rice was race inspired custum e-forgot, the other did claim a link with asian street racing.

Re: AI surveillance should be banned while there is still time

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Makes sense, have to deal with the cat being out of the bag though. The groups that didn't train on public domain content would have an advantage if it's implemented as a rule moving forward at least for some time. New models following this could create a gap. I'm sure competition as has been seen from open-source models will be able to

It's simple, the current models and their usage is copyright infringement. Just because everyone is doing it doesn't meant it's right or legal. Only that a lot of very rich companies deserve to get punished and pay the creators.

I was referring to the issue of the new models having to train different than the original ones.

Not arguing, debating about the legality of what the models have done.

Anthropic just paid a settlement. But they also bought a ton of book and scanned them, which might be more than other models. Maybe it's a sign of things to come.

Re: AI surveillance should be banned while there is still time

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I stopped using Facebook because I saw a video of a little Australian girl maybe 7 years old age wise holding a spider bigger than her face in her hand. I wrote the most internet meme comment I could think of “girl let go of that spider, we gotta set the house on fire” hit the button to post, only it did not post, it gave me an account strike. At the time I was the only developer at my employer who managed our Facebo…

I've already had a pre-screen coding tests judged by AI. It's unsettling. I also had a CV rejection letter with AI rejection reasons in it as well which was frustrating because none of the reasons matched my CV at all, in my opinion. I am still not sure if the resume was actually reviewed by a human or AI but I am assuming the latter. I absolutely hated looking for a new job pre-AI and when times were good. Now I'm f…

Comment that code to guide it :)

Re: AI surveillance should be banned while there is still time

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AFAIK there isn't currently any surveillance on search - searching for how to make a bomb does not lead to police at your doorstep the next day. But the police raid after a mass shooting generally brings up plenty of similar searches.

Maybe it could be good to have some integrations between this data and law enforcement to reduce leading to tragedy? Maybe start not with crime but suicide - I think a search result telling you to call this number if you are feeling bad saves far less lives than a feed into social workers potentially could.

Just a thought, and this isn't have a computer sentence someone to prison but providing data to people to in the end make informed decisions to try to prevent tragedy. Privacy is important to a degree but treating it as absolute seems to waste potential to save lives.

Re: AI surveillance should be banned while there is still time

#209

I expect we will continue to see the big AI companies pushing for privacy protections. Sam Altman made a comparison to attorney-client privilege in an interview. There is a significant hold out to using these things as fully trusted personal assistants or personal knowledge bases because of the lack of privacy. The only real solution is locally running models, but that goes against the business model. So instead they…

I wonder if pushing for privacy protections is due to seeing such concerns of intrusion on privacy already on the horizon.

Re: AI surveillance should be banned while there is still time

#210

I stopped using Facebook because I saw a video of a little Australian girl maybe 7 years old age wise holding a spider bigger than her face in her hand. I wrote the most internet meme comment I could think of “girl let go of that spider, we gotta set the house on fire” hit the button to post, only it did not post, it gave me an account strike. At the time I was the only developer at my employer who managed our Facebo…

Not using Facebook doesn't help either though. My new co-worker didn't have one but needed it for his job so he made an account and was immediately flagged for suspicious activity.

One person got their company banned from Google by getting themselves banned from Google and having Google think the company account was an alt. The company made phone apps.
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