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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1811783320839008381 """ The European Commission offered an illegal secret deal: if we quietly censored speech without telling anyone, they would not fine us. The other platforms accepted that deal. X did not. """
And as we all know, Elon is physically unable to lie. Of course there's no actual evidence for this "illegal secret deal". -- sent from the front seat of my FSD-based unmanned Robotaxi
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>Don't pick this as a hill to die on, that man isn't worth it. What are you talking about? Are you making up strawmen?
Im saying he's not worthy of defending. Its clear that he intends to wield his fortune to enact political change.
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Im saying he's not worthy of defending. Its clear that he intends to wield his fortune to enact political change.
Pointing out the truth doesn't mean you're defending anyone but the truth. Not everything is partisan.
Elon Musk has made his political intentions entirely clear, in writing, on his personal account. Anyone still trying to give him the benefit of the doubt is either being insincere or is a useful idiot.
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What other moral standard is there besides laws? Is it that the laws of non-tyrannical countries should override those of tyrannical ones? How do you decide tyrannicalness? Or should internet companies decide what should be allowed in other countries despite those countries and their populations disagreeing? Great firewalls are the solution when nobody can agree with each other across borders but that's a pity.
> What other moral standard is there besides laws? They took a pretty good stab at it in 1948: https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-huma...
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And as we all know, Elon is physically unable to lie. Of course there's no actual evidence for this "illegal secret deal". -- sent from the front seat of my FSD-based unmanned Robotaxi
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> But they all staid 100% silent on this.
Speaking of "actual lies", this is one.
> Firing back on X, the [European] commissioner [for Internal Market Thierry Breton] denied the existence of a secret deal and said no such bargain had been made with any other platforms:
> Be our guest @elonmusk
> There has never been — and will never be — any “secret deal”. With anyone.
> The DSA provides X (and any large platform) with the possibility to offer commitments to settle a case.
> To be extra clear: it’s YOUR team who asked the Commission to explain the process for settlement and to clarify our concerns.
> We did it in line with established regulatory procedures. Up to you to decide whether to offer commitments or not. That is how rule of law procedures work.
> See you (in court or not).
Source: https://x.com/ThierryBreton/status/1811811489889517697
So I'm inclined to believe Elon lied, as he does with painful monotony. Especially when, oh yeah, when Elon and X were asked to respond to this... they didn't.
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Pointing out the truth doesn't mean you're defending anyone but the truth. Not everything is partisan.
You're obfuscating the truth. I'm a Brit and clearly more aware than you on how Elon likes to try to interfere with the democratic choices this country has made. In the past day or two, his personal account has been attempting to buoy up Tommy fucking Robinson (for the umpteenth time) who is a violent thug, convicted criminal and renowned Islamophobe. Your "facts" are just sea-lioning misdirection that takes us away…
Also, shouldn't you be more concerned with little girls in the UK needing to carry knives and axes to defend themselves from migrant rape gangs, than with what Elon is saying?
Especially since he's not causing those issues, he's just reading the room and calling it out as it is.
I feel like you're getting worked up for the wrong things.
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> What other moral standard is there besides laws? They took a pretty good stab at it in 1948: https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-huma...
That's just a snapshot of popular western liberal morals of the time. They also took a pretty good stab at it in the Quran and Hadiths. Both moral standards are still very popular yet they contradict each other. Is Islam wrong or is western liberalism wrong? Should a country with one type of society coerce the other into compliance?
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You're obfuscating the truth. I'm a Brit and clearly more aware than you on how Elon likes to try to interfere with the democratic choices this country has made. In the past day or two, his personal account has been attempting to buoy up Tommy fucking Robinson (for the umpteenth time) who is a violent thug, convicted criminal and renowned Islamophobe. Your "facts" are just sea-lioning misdirection that takes us away…
Again, I wasn't defending him. Also, shouldn't you be more concerned with little girls in the UK needing to carry knives and axes to defend themselves from migrant rape gangs, than with what Elon is saying? Especially since he's not causing those issues, he's just reading the room and calling it out as it is. I feel like you're getting worked up for the wrong things.
Well thanks for letting me know where you get your information from. I know exactly what your referencing which is a twelve year old feral child and her sister walking around with dangerous weapons, intimidating people and then when anyone stands up to her, they turn the camera on and cry foul. When I was a kid I used to hang out with kids from social, so I've seen it all before. Maybe its new to you, so you fall for it. Perhaps you believe that "clean shirt" is the height of wit?
> Especially since he's not causing those issues, he's just reading the room and calling it out as it is.
Good job in being part of the latest generation to fall for the oldest trick in the book. It's called a hate plank and its a cheap trick used by cheap politicians to manipulate cheap electors. Idk how you stumbled onto here but if it wasn't accidental then you really should know better because you've likely had some level of education, formal or self-taught. CPUs tell us how stupid we are when we give them instructions, have you not learned to distrust your own assumptions yet? How are you convinced that the biggest problems in a given nation are a consequence of the smallest group of people who have been here for the least amount of time?
> I feel like you're getting worked up for the wrong things.
I think getting upset at people playing victim and painting the world as ending in order to obtain political power IS the thing to get worked up about. Personally I love how the slogan MAGA embeds itself in the lie that America isn't great already. Certainly by the size definiton its pretty great and has been for well over a hundred years. GDP per capita is off the fucking charts. Richest country in the world, by a significant margin, greatest stock growth in the world, attracts the most investment, with some of the cheapest goods, some of the best tech and greatest opportunities for its people. But it then convinces itself that *its* the victim. Its absolutely pathetic.
At least feral kids _are_ disadvantaged in the first place which is why they're like that.