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Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by troupo »

khafra wrote: post #195
troupo wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, none of that happened with LLMs

https://openai.com/index/prover-verifier-games-improve-legib... OpenAI has been doing verifier-guided training since last year. No SOTA model was trained without verified reward training for math and programming.

Your claim: "by reading the docs, and by autogenerating code samples and testing them against verifiers, and by paying a lot of people to write sample code for sample questions."

Your link: "Grade school math problems from a hardcoded dataset with hardcoded answers" [1]

It really is the same thing.

[1] https://openai.com/index/solving-math-word-problems/

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GSM8K consists of 8.5K high quality grade school math word problems. Each problem takes between 2 and 8 steps to solve, and solutions primarily involve performing a sequence of elementary calculations using basic arithmetic operations (+ − × ÷) to reach the final answer.

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Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by dijit »

postalcoder wrote: post #176
dijit wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

thanks for giving the security department more reasons to think that way. I spent the last 6 months trying to convince them not to block all outbound traffic by default.

The right middle ground is running Little Snitch in alert mode. The initial phase of training the filters and manually approving requests is painful, but it's a lot better than an air gap.

that’s what I do, but since it’s in my control the security teams don’t like it. ;)

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by icemelt8 »

pjmlp wrote: post #173

The irony of this, is that Microsoft was trying to push CoPilot everywhere, however eventually Apple, Google and JetBrains have their own AI integrations, taking CoPilot out of the loop. Slowly the AI craziness at Microsoft is taking the similar shape, of going all in at the begining and then losing to the competition, that they also had with Web (IE), mobile (Windows CE/Pocket PC/WP 7/WP 8/UWP), the BUILD sessions t…

umm I don't know what you are talking about, I use a Github Copilot 40 USD subscription in VSCode to code using various models, and this is the industry standard now in my region, as most employers are now giving employees the 10 USD subscription.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by matthewmacleod »

throwawa14223 wrote: post #8

It's getting harder to find IDEs that properly boycott LLMs.

Of course it is, because that would be an aggressively stupid thing to do. Like boycotting syntax highlighting, spellckecking, VCS integration or a dozen other features that are th whole pint of IDEs.

If you don’t want to use LLM coding assistants – or if you can’t, or it’s not a technology suitable for your work – nobody cares. It’s totally fine. You don’t need to get performatively enraged about it.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by c_ehlen »

breadwinner wrote: post #42

It seems every IDE now has AI built-in. That's a problem if you're working on highly confidential code. You never know when the AI is going to upload code snippets to the server for analysis.

Most of the big corporations will have a special contract with the AI labs with 0 retention policies.

I do not think this will be an issue for big companies.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by ygritte »

gary_0 wrote: post #104
typpilol wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought vscodium was just vscode but open source. Won't any issues in vscode also be present in vscodium?

It can't access most Microsoft online services including Copilot, which happens to disable most of the features I don't want. (I understand this is both by design, as well as because Microsoft forbids unofficial forks from doing so.)

However, MS do everything they can to make plugins not work in VSCodium. And the plugin marketplaces are separate now.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by prawn »

mm263 wrote: post #147
not_your_vase wrote: post #139

3 days ago I saw another Claude praising submission on HN, and finally I signed up for it, to compare it with copilot. I asked 2 things. 1. Create a boilerplate Zephyr project skeleton, for Pi Pico with st7789 spi display drivers configured. It generated garbage devicetree which didn't even compile. When I pointed it out, it apologized and generated another one that didn't compile. It configured also non-existent dri…

Try this prompt: Create a detailed step by step plan to implement a boilerplate Zephyr project skeleton for Pi Pico with configured st7789 SPI display drivers Ask Opus or Gemini 2.5 Pro to write a plan. Then ask the other to critique it and fix mistakes. Then ask Sonnet to implement

I found that second line works well for image prompts too. Tell one AI to help you with a prompt, and then take it back to the others to generate images.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by ygritte »

einrealist wrote: post #200

Its not shipping the model in Xcode. You are still sending your data off to a remote provider, hoping that this provider behaves nicely with all this data and that the government will never force the provider to reveal your data.

They are already forcing OpenAI to keep all logs. Go figure.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by stevenhuang »

not_your_vase wrote: post #139

3 days ago I saw another Claude praising submission on HN, and finally I signed up for it, to compare it with copilot. I asked 2 things. 1. Create a boilerplate Zephyr project skeleton, for Pi Pico with st7789 spi display drivers configured. It generated garbage devicetree which didn't even compile. When I pointed it out, it apologized and generated another one that didn't compile. It configured also non-existent dri…

So I've used Zephyr. The thing you're doing wrong is expecting LLMs to scaffold you a bunch of files from a relatively niche domain. Zephyr is also a mess of complexity with poor documentation. You should ask it to consult official docs and ask it to use existing tools (west etc) and board defs to do the scaffolding.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Post by adastra22 »

postalcoder wrote: post #165
not_your_vase wrote: post #139

3 days ago I saw another Claude praising submission on HN, and finally I signed up for it, to compare it with copilot. I asked 2 things. 1. Create a boilerplate Zephyr project skeleton, for Pi Pico with st7789 spi display drivers configured. It generated garbage devicetree which didn't even compile. When I pointed it out, it apologized and generated another one that didn't compile. It configured also non-existent dri…

You can no longer answer "what is the state of the art” by pointing to a model. Generating a state-of-the-art response to your request involves a back-and-forth with the agent about your requirements, having a agent generate and carry out a deep research plan to collect documentation, then having the agent generate and carry out a development plan to carry it out. So while Claude is not the best model in terms of raw…

> So while Claude is not the best model in terms of raw IQ

Which one is, and by what metric? I always end up back at Claude after trying other models because it is so much better at real world applications.

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