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Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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> I'm impressed by Musk's PR team. They hype tech years behind competitors with puff pieces like this with gullible journalists that don't contextualize. Ok where is a paraplegic who's life has been fundamentally improved more then the Neuralink patient one by some of these other technologies that are "years" ahead?

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Neuralink is amazing technology and watching videos of participants who have completely different abilities and freedom with Neuralink implants is mind blowing. It’s sad that many want to dismiss these amazing achievements just because it’s an Elon Musk founded company. At some point you simply have to acknowledge his success (and his team’s), and hope they get further with all of this. For those interested in their…

It’s actually the other way around. Musk is getting a ton of attention even for stuff that’s inferior to what other teams are doing.

"Inferior?" Neuralink's tech is SOTA.

Before Neuralink, there was no major investment into BCI tech as far as eye could see - because medicine is where innovation goes to die. We've gone from Utah arrays in 1990 to Utah arrays in 2020. All while computing and AI - the other key enablers of neural interfaces - advanced in leaps and bounds.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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This guy tweets all day and the press talks about every little thing he ever does, there are hundreds of videos of him on youtube, dozens of his employees and ex-employees telling stories about him on the net. How much more do you think you are going to learn if you actually talk to him?

I would argue a lot of Musk haters are not getting a representative sample of his behavior, but rather only the most outrageous things he says and does, which tend to be the things that penetrate their bubble.

I don’t hate him. I think he’s a sad, small man who makes himself feel big by being a bully and faking technical experience and knowledge. I think his fans confuse being in the right place at the right time in possession significant capital as genius. I think he is an incredibly toxic public figure. I think farming outrage and feeding trolls is bad for everyone. I think Nazi salutes are bad. I think that lying is bad. I think abandoning children is bad. I think buddying up with fascists is bad.

So sure maybe I miss out on his generous acts but honestly he does enough bad that I don’t particularly care about any good he does. He’s only doing it for himself anyway.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Not trying to be snarky, but doesn't this mental model effectively allow you to ignore any/all things otherwise intelligent people have to say, simply because you disagree? If I met Einstein, and he had opinions about how to cook chicken that differed from mine, I wouldn't leap to "he's a complete moron in the kitchen!", i'd be inclined to really attempt to understand the difference of opinion. I'm not disagreeing th…

I already answered this

If you are a person who has shown traits of very low intelligence, any fact you state has to have concrete evidence, especially if its something that is not easily verifiable.

Meanwhile people who have generally shown themselves to be more intelligent can generally be trusted more from the start.

>t is _not_ obviously the case that "anyone who can think critically leans towards the Democratic party"

Yes it is. Conservatism comes from not being able to comprehend reality around you correctly. Anything rational in the conservative movement (like sensible gun rights) is already a part of modern liberal Democrats, while the rest of the stuff is just objectively and verifiably wrong.

And just for clarity, its not my side versus your side. The far left movements that lean towards hard socialism and abandonment of private property are also verifiably wrong. This is part of horseshoe effect in politics.

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Not trying to be snarky, but doesn't this mental model effectively allow you to ignore any/all things otherwise intelligent people have to say, simply because you disagree? If I met Einstein, and he had opinions about how to cook chicken that differed from mine, I wouldn't leap to "he's a complete moron in the kitchen!", i'd be inclined to really attempt to understand the difference of opinion. I'm not disagreeing th…

"anyone who can think critically leans towards the Democratic party" isn't something anyone who's actually intelligent would ever say.

Yes because it makes perfect sense to vote for convicted felon, most likely a child molester, who tried to coup the government when he lost in 2025, with Project 2025 behind his back.

That act alone pretty much disqualifies you from being able to talk about intelligence in the first place.

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"Blind" has way more of a wide definition than we usually appreciate. I volunteer at a food pantry. There is one old lady who is sometimes rude in the line, shoving through saying "move it, I'm blind!!" She sometimes informs me that produce I hand her has black spots and she doesn't want it. I believe she may actually be legally blind.

Black spots often have a different feeling on produce.

That's a good point. I'm fairly certain that lady has said that to me before touching the food. I think some legally blind people are good with shapes and big contrasts. She may also be relying on smell and not expressing it.

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That's not how things have played out with Tesla. They have all the investment in the world and the most irrational valuation to have ever graced the public markets, yet their tech is years behind competitors.

Does any other consumer car brand have a self-driving mode as good as Tesla's?

"Tastiest steaming pile at the dog park" is a curious honor to wrap one's champion in but perhaps I'm not the target audience

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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> Ultimately, to the body an implant is simply a foreign object. I get your point but, there's a lot of foreign objects going in by the way of various pores and openings. Biological beings are surprisingly resilient & fragile at the same time.

Not remotely the same thing.

Pesticides and micro plastics are equally foreign even if not absorbed/ingested in as one big unit. Besides, in modern medicine, implanting devices in organs (ex: pacemakers, valves, electrodes) isn't unheard of?

Re: Neuralink 'Participant 1' says his life has changed

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Doesn't matter. That hype will draw attention, which will draw investors, which will draw in money to pay for the best researchers until they become SOTA. If 3 years ago the tech was available then how come the Neuralink patients never got that? I'm sure they'd be the first to sign up. Distribution is part of innovation. Brain computer interfaces exist but those who would be willing to undergo the procedure to get th…

>If 3 years ago the tech was available then how come the Neuralink patients never got that? I'm sure they'd be the first to sign up. Because other companies have ethics and follow the rules and best practices. They register their clinical trials with the NIH and they stop and ask questions if half the monkeys they test on end up dead.

It's entirely possible to spend so long trying to remove the rough edges and be perfectly safe that you kill the people you were trying to save via the sheer passage of time.
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