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Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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blibble wrote: post #64
jimmaswell wrote: post #12

What exactly is so bad about AI crawlers compared to Google or Bing? Is there more volume or is it just "I don't like AI"?

they seem to be written by either idiots and/or people that don't give a shit about being good internet citizens either way the result is the same: they induce massive load well written crawlers will: - not hit a specific ip/host more frequently than say 1 req/5s - put newly discovered URLs at the end of a distributed queue (NOT do DFS per domain) - limit crawling depth based on crawled page quality and/or response t…

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Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by codedokode »

nemomarx wrote: post #160
Gibbon1 wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Best response to AI scrapers is to poison their models.

how well is modern poisoning holding up?

What about appealing to ethics, i.e. posting messages about how a poor catgirl ended up on the street because AI took her job? To make AI refuse to reply due to ethical concerns?

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by efilife »

Lammy wrote: post #175
sugarpimpdorsey wrote: post #93

Every time I see one of these I think it's a malicious redirect to some pervert-dwelling imageboard. On that note, is kernel.org really using this for free and not the paid version without the anime? Linux Foundation really that desperate for cash after they gas up all the BMW's?

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Can somebody please explain why was this comment flagged to death? I seem to be missing something

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by doublerabbit »

xandrius wrote: post #200
serf wrote: post #133

I don't care that they use anime catgirls. What I do care about is being met with something cutesy in the face of a technical failure anywhere on the net . I hate Amazon's failure pets, I hate google's failure mini-games -- it strikes me as an organizational effort to get really good at failing rather than spending that same effort to avoid failures all together. It's like everyone collectively thought the standard o…

The original versions were a way to make fun even a boring event such as a 404. If the page stops conveying the type of error to the user then it's just bad UX but also vomiting all the internal jargon to a non-tech user is bad UX. So, I don't see an error code + something fun to be that bad. People love dreaming of the 90s wild web and hate the clean cut soulless corp web of today, so I don't see how having fun erro…

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Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by aseipp »

turtletontine wrote: post #114
qualeed wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's crazy ( especially considering anime is more popular now than ever; netflix alone is making billions a year on anime) that people see a completely innocent little anime picture and immediately think "pervent-dwelling imageboard".

Even if the images aren’t the kind of sexualized (or downright pornographic) content this implies… having cutesy anime girls pop up when a user loads your site is, at best, wildly unprofessional. (Dare I say “cringe”?) For something as serious and legit as kernel.org to have this, I do think it’s frankly shocking and unacceptable.

You'll live.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by OkayPhysicist »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #91
kingstnap wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is literally no point wasting 3 seconds of a computer's time and it's expensive wasting 3 seconds of a person's time. That is literally an anti-human filter.

From tjhorner on this same thread "Anubis doesn't target crawlers which run JS (or those which use a headless browser, etc.) It's meant to block the low-effort crawlers that tend to make up large swaths of spam traffic. One can argue about the efficacy of this approach, but those higher-effort crawlers are out of scope for the project." So its meant/preferred to block low effort crawlers which can still cause damage…

Anubis exists specifically to handle the problem of bots dodging IP rate limiting. The challenge is tied to your IP, so if you're cycling IPs with every request, you pay dramatically more PoW than someone using a single IP. It's intended to be used in depth with IP rate limiting.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by andrewmcwatters »

johnecheck wrote: post #136
Arnavion wrote: post #45

>This dance to get access is just a minor annoyance for me, but I question how it proves I’m not a bot. These steps can be trivially and cheaply automated. >I think the end result is just an internet resource I need is a little harder to access, and we have to waste a small amount of energy. No need to mimic the actual challenge process. Just change your user agent to not have "Mozilla" in it; Anubis only serves you…

Sadly, touching the user-agent header more or less instantly makes you uniquely identifiable. Browser fingerprinting works best against people with unique headers. There's probably millions of people using an untouched safari on iPhone. Once you touch your user-agent header, you're likely the only person in the world with that fingerprint.

Yes, but you can take the bet, and win more often than not, that your adversary is most likely not tracking visitor probabilities if you can detect that they aren't using a major fingerprinting provider.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by kevincox »

hiccuphippo wrote: post #193
debugnik wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not bypassing it, that's them finally engaging with the PoW challenge as intended, making crawling slower and more expensive, instead failing to crawl at all, which is more of a plus. This however forces servers to increase the challenge difficulty, which increases the waiting time for the first-time access.

Too bad the challenge's result is only a waste of electricity. Maybe they should do like some of those alt-coins and search for prime numbers or something similar instead.

Of course that doesn't directly help the site operator. Maybe it could actually do a bit of bitcoin mining for the site owner. Then that could pay for the cost of accessing the site.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by [deleted] »

johnecheck wrote: post #136
Arnavion wrote: post #45

>This dance to get access is just a minor annoyance for me, but I question how it proves I’m not a bot. These steps can be trivially and cheaply automated. >I think the end result is just an internet resource I need is a little harder to access, and we have to waste a small amount of energy. No need to mimic the actual challenge process. Just change your user agent to not have "Mozilla" in it; Anubis only serves you…

Sadly, touching the user-agent header more or less instantly makes you uniquely identifiable. Browser fingerprinting works best against people with unique headers. There's probably millions of people using an untouched safari on iPhone. Once you touch your user-agent header, you're likely the only person in the world with that fingerprint.

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