Genuine question ( I avoid windows) is putty still necessary now that WSL is a thing?
PuTTY has a new website
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#202Genuine question ( I avoid windows) is putty still necessary now that WSL is a thing?
Sometimes, lots of companies will lock down WSL and similar because they can't as easily control what's running in it for security or policy reasons. In those cases putting would be easier to audit and deal with since it's much more single purpose
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#203Genuine question ( I avoid windows) is putty still necessary now that WSL is a thing?
The OpenSSH SSH client has been included in Windows as default since 2018, so you don't even need WSL to use it anymore.
Just open a terminal and type ssh just like you would in Linux.
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#204Genuine question ( I avoid windows) is putty still necessary now that WSL is a thing?
OpenSSL was available on Windows even before WSL.
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#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't trust Windows with my SSH keys. Since about 2 years, I am actively preparing my final migration to Linux. There's some Windows software left that I need to replace before this move is possible, but I am close.
Just pull the trigger. A surprisingly large amount of software just works on wine. I'm a c# dev with near 20 years experience, and I finally got the shits with advertising in the start menu. Arch Linux, because I figured why not do it properly? I game a fair bit, and find most things on steam just work.
Wine can be a bit of a headache if you are on a couple year older distro as it can make it harder to install newer Wine versions.
But I found that the Bottles project pretty much solves this, by installing everything in some kind of sandboxed environment:
https://github.com/bottlesdevs/Bottles
Has worked wonderfully for the few cases where plain Wine failed.
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#206Genuine question ( I avoid windows) is putty still necessary now that WSL is a thing?
Windows has shipped with OpenSSH (client and server) for years. Windows Terminal has also been available for years, and now ships with Windows. So you do not need PuTTY.
That said, some people like PuTTY. It is much easier to setup and use. It also offers other features (like serial communications).
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#207Genuine question ( I avoid windows) is putty still necessary now that WSL is a thing?
Putty is obsolete for SSH terminals, but is still useful for serial terminals (like when you need to flash a bricked router )
Putty is a terminal emulator and an SSH + telnet client all in one. Now Microsoft offers a number of platforms that overlap to provide similar functionality.
WSL2 (aka WSL) is the Linux system that runs a Linux kernel and apps within Windows (technically a hidden HyperV VM) with some loose bindings to the OS resources for networking, files etc.
OpenSSH is the SSH client installed with Windows. It can be used via CMD or Windows Terminal + Powershell . You don’t need WSL installed. So it’s great for VMs or remote shells.
Powershell is the Windows Shell (like bash on Linux or CMD on earlier windows) that lets you run openssh and other windows CLI Apps
Windows Terminal is the new-ish (6+ years) terminal emulator that lets you run a variety of shells. Most commonly Powershell , Bash (WSL), or you can SSH to any host using openssh . It works like tmux with tabs/windows into any remote host .
I decided to lay this all out because Windows apps for SSH and terminals are a little different than Linux.
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Certificate by Let's Encrypt, issued to "putty.software" no other info. Sometimes I feel like we are training users to disregard safety mechanisms for phishing. Using putty was never the pinnacle of professionalism and open source auditing anyway, it's just a binary you download on windows before you hear the gospel of linux and ssh.
> Using putty was never the pinnacle of professionalism and open source auditing anyway Huh? The source is available on the original site and TTBOMK always has been, you're welcome to compile it yourself.
No one in the history of humanity has compiled a tool from source in windows
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
Certificate by Let's Encrypt, issued to "putty.software" no other info. Sometimes I feel like we are training users to disregard safety mechanisms for phishing. Using putty was never the pinnacle of professionalism and open source auditing anyway, it's just a binary you download on windows before you hear the gospel of linux and ssh.
Why would that be disregarding safety? There's no extra text you can put on the website that would prove anything else (apart from messages signed by a known key, but honestly nobody would check those). Certificates don't provide any identity validation in practice.
Certificates have fields for location, company or name of person.
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#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just pull the trigger. A surprisingly large amount of software just works on wine. I'm a c# dev with near 20 years experience, and I finally got the shits with advertising in the start menu. Arch Linux, because I figured why not do it properly? I game a fair bit, and find most things on steam just work.
> I'm a c# dev with near 20 years experience Which IDE do you use? JetBrains Rider?
Not the person you asked, but I'm in a similar boat (15 years, polyglot but a lot of C#).
I mostly use VS Code to be honest. I use VSCode for other languages and for a long time it was the only graphical editor to have good remote development (over SSH) support.
Rider has that feature now though and is pretty nice too. I typically jump over to it when I need to profile something as it integrates with dotTrace. If you're coming from full-fat Visual Studio you'll probably prefer Rider.