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Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by apparent »

bronlund wrote: post #25

Why would anyone support this knowing how it went the last time? Eric isn't in this because he want you to have a better watch, he is in this so he can sell you out at the first opportunity. It may not be FitBit or Automattic this time, but that's just what he does.

Hard disagree. For one thing, no one is "supporting" this. It's not a Kickstarter, it's pre-orders. You can get your money back (including the credit card fee, if you ordered early) before it ships.

Secondly, he has said that he's trying to build an enduring company. And thirdly, he has said that he's building these in part because he wants to have a watch for himself. That aligns incentives and means that there will be ongoing manufacturing.

Lastly, he has gotten all the software open sourced, which means that if he closes up shop in a year, then anyone else can come in and build a competitor.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by jama211 »

bibanez wrote: post #134
telesilla wrote: post #114

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Agreed. I'd kill for a watch that you could hold all notifications until you decided to receive them all, ideally at a slow pace over a period of time. For now, I disable notifications but it's a shame I can't access them when I'm ready to do so. I have hopes for this pebble!

My Garmin watch on Do Not Disturb accomplishes this. I always forget to look at them though!

Does it deliver them at a slow pace after you turn it off?

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by jama211 »

poniko wrote: post #54
denismi wrote: post #9

I've pulled the trigger. When Pebble died I decided that I'd rather less smart and more battery than more smart and less battery, so I got a Withings watch and have been reasonably happy since. But this looks really good now and I'm happy to support it even if it doesn't win over my wrist space. Hopefully they sort out Health Connect support on the Pebble Android app by January so that I can at least sync steps betwe…

Me as well, I have a drawer of watches and I want to use one but the 1-2 day battery life is just a dealbreaker .. 30 days will probably make me care to put it on again after the charge is done.

I’m always surprised by this, I charge my watch every night when I take it off for bed, I just put it on the magnet snap charger instead of on the wood itself, I’d be taking it off either way. Why is short battery life a deal breaker for people?

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by apparent »

jama211 wrote: post #203
poniko wrote: post #54

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Me as well, I have a drawer of watches and I want to use one but the 1-2 day battery life is just a dealbreaker .. 30 days will probably make me care to put it on again after the charge is done.

I’m always surprised by this, I charge my watch every night when I take it off for bed, I just put it on the magnet snap charger instead of on the wood itself, I’d be taking it off either way. Why is short battery life a deal breaker for people?

Because one of the best things about wearing a smartwatch is that you can use it as a silent (vibrating) alarm that doesn't wake anyone else up.

I've heard some people say that newer AWs can last indefinitely if you charge only while in the shower. That could be good enough. But I still don't want to have to bring another charge cable with me every time I take a trip. One week is good. Two weeks is great. A month is amazing (partly because after the battery degrades for years, it will still be two weeks).

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by ugh123 »

jama211 wrote: post #202
bibanez wrote: post #134

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My Garmin watch on Do Not Disturb accomplishes this. I always forget to look at them though!

Does it deliver them at a slow pace after you turn it off?

How would you want that feature to work? Delivered every minute? Evened delivery through the next hour?

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by teekert »

Karawebnetwork wrote: post #132
51Cards wrote: post #122

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You may also find interesting that in this release update he mentiones that the backlight LED is now RGB and they are toying with ideas like making the backlight blue light aware at nights, etc.

This would be interesting. I was gifted a Kindle with backlighting recently after my old first generation one broke. The backlight is useless to me because it shines blue, so I just use a candle.

FWIW, my PocketBook (Touch HD3) can shine in red. It has a most horrible book store though and microusb charging. Not sure what newer models offer.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by cyprien_g »

I remember participating in the crowdfunding for the last Pebble. I was so excited to receive it, and it was great.

But a few months later, the company shut down, along with support for their products, and it was hard to swallow. This, combined with the fact that the buttons on my Pebble started to fall apart less than a year later (which is when the lack of support became problematic), made the experience pretty bad in the end.

But I’m really excited to see Pebble come back to life, and maybe I’ll be a customer of their watches again in the future.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by leokennis »

GloriousKoji wrote: post #177
leokennis wrote: post #113

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Wait an AMOLED with 30 days of battery life? Why/how can my Apple Watch barely make it through 24 hours? What’s the fundamental difference between these two smartwatches that accounts for a 30× decrease in battery life?

Probably because the Apple Watch is effectively a modern 10 year old smart phone made tiny with an ARM Cortex A series CPU running at nearly 2GHz while the Garmin is a ARM Cortex M series microcontroller doing ~200MHz.

And still the Garmin offers much of the same functionality. It seems Apple is wasting 30 × battery life just to be 2 × "nicer" than a Garmin.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by roflmaostc »

datadrivenangel wrote: post #127
roflmaostc wrote: post #86

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my Garmin Fenix 6 used to survive with 21 days of display always one but lowest brightness, if I didn't use any GPS. Now, after 3 years it is somehow down to 10 days. No chance of debugging where it comes from as I haven't changed anything on my side.

That sounds like battery degradation. If they aggressively use less than ideal batteries, ~50% degradation after 3 years is bad but not uncommon.

But I didn't have this issue with my other garmins before.

Also, you have to consider that I charge my watch ~10 times less than my phone (roughly every 10 days). So the total amount of charging cycles was maybe ~100 times.

Re: Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal [video]

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Post by roflmaostc »

deanc wrote: post #100
roflmaostc wrote: post #86

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my Garmin Fenix 6 used to survive with 21 days of display always one but lowest brightness, if I didn't use any GPS. Now, after 3 years it is somehow down to 10 days. No chance of debugging where it comes from as I haven't changed anything on my side.

I turned that off immediately. I don’t see the value when the gesture to wake it up works almost flawlessly.

I want to be able to watch on my watch without moving my arm. Unless it detects my eyes, it stays on :p
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