> The overall disk usage for trixie is 403,854,660 kB (403 GB) That's too big. I'm going to need a smaller distro.
I’m sure it’s small compared to some alternatives.
Debian 13 “Trixie”
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Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”
#202Apparently Trixie needs a larger boot petition than prior versions and therefore I have to do new installs on three of my homelab machines - and probably my proxmox machine too. What a headache.
Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”
#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can easily keep the current naming behavior with the 'net.naming_scheme=' kargs
I already have systems that use net.ifnames=0. My question is about whether this new behavior can affect them.
It'll not, the new behavior is just a new naming scheme, and you just choose not to use any, which is totally fine if you have a single NIC.
Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”
#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
Debian stable is just that - unchanging between major Debian versions. They do however push security updates when necessary, so you're not missing out on those
Any chance you know how they manage that? Surely not every package in the repos is supported for the entire 2 year cycle, so if a vuln comes out after a major refactor, it’s surely not easy to backport the patch.
Theres some information here they've put out: https://www.debian.org/security/faq
And yeah it must be an incredible amount of work to stay on top of all this
Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”
#205Writing this from my Debian system, it's a great distro that has been excellent to me as a daily driver. I switched to Debian 6 after Ubuntu went way downhill and haven't had cause to regret it. I like Debian's measured pragmatism with ideology, how it's a distro of free software by default but it also makes it easy to install non-free software or firmware blobs. I like Debian's package guidelines, I like dpkg, I lik…
> after Ubuntu went way downhill and haven't had cause to regret it. In what way Ubuntu went downhill?
Minutes to start Firefox on one of my machines.
Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
LTS has had major breaking changes in various areas in recent times too, virtio was badly broken at one point this year, as was a commonly used netlink interface. Hat tip to the Arch kernel contributors who helped track this down and chase upstream, as we had mutually affected users. The debian and ubuntu bug trackers were a wasteland of silence and user contributions throughout the situation, and frustratingly conti…
One of the unsung praises of Arch is that it's turned thousands of users into testers. Before someone says "that shouldn't be the user's responsibility" I'm going to say I'm not so sure. We're all in this together. I'd rather deal with a bug or two on my desktop at home if it means it gets fixed before appearing in a distro that gets used for servers at work and causes issues there where the consequences are much hig…
I have a similar experience. My not-so-tech-savvy brother also has the same laptop setup I do (arch+XFCE). He knows to yay -Syyu and it's usually never a problem. The recent upgrade there was the vlc package split problem so I told him to hold on upgrading and that I'd come and do it. While I needed to sit and filter and install the optional dependencies myself for my upgrade, a week later it was already figured out (based on user feedback I assume) and the usual yay -Syyu installed just the right optional dependencies.
Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”
#207Congrats to the Debian team!
Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”
#208I just upgraded a mini pc with no real issues. Main steps were:
1.) sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --yes upgrade && sudo apt-get --yes autoremove --purge
2.) Update all entries of bookworm to trixie in /etc/apt/sources.list.
3.) sudo apt full-upgrade
4.) sudo reboot
5.) sudo apt modernize-sourcesRe: Debian 13 “Trixie”
#209A total of seven architectures are officially supported for "trixie": "trixie" 64-bit PC (amd64), 64-bit ARM (arm64), ARM EABI (armel), ARMv7 (EABI hard-float ABI, armhf), 64-bit little-endian PowerPC (ppc64el), 64-bit little-endian RISC-V (riscv64), IBM System z (s390x) It's good to see RISC-V becoming a first-class citizen, despite the general lack of hardware using it at the moment. I do wonder, where are PowerPC…
Very important to note the lack of x86 (32bit x86) support.
The end of an era.
Re: Debian 13 “Trixie”
#210Apparently Trixie needs a larger boot petition than prior versions and therefore I have to do new installs on three of my homelab machines - and probably my proxmox machine too. What a headache.
That sounds concerning, especially since Debian had hard-coded (!) a tiny /boot partition for encrypted disks for a long time. This already caused problems quite frequently (you have to manually delete them quite frequently, and which inhibits your ability to revert after a kernel regression - which, hm, I have noted to have been relatively common for Debian 12 "Bookworm" compared to usual ... hopefully Trixie is better, but if it makes the kernel-management problem harder that's a bad sign)