What could be the benefit of paying $20 to Ollama to run inferior models instead of paying the same amount of money to e.g. OpenAI for access to sota models?
Groq seems to do okay with a similar service but I think their pricing is probably better.
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#203I see a lot of hate for ollama doing this kind of thing but also they remain one of the easiest to use solutions for developing and testing against a model locally. Sure, llama.cpp is the real thing, ollama is a wrapper... I would never want to use something like ollama in a production setting. But if I want to quickly get someone less technical up to speed to develop an LLM-enabled system and run qwen or w/e locally…
> I would never want to use something like ollama in a production setting. We benchmarked vLLM and Ollama on both startup time and tokens per seconds. Ollama comes at the top. We hope to be able to publish these results soon.
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#204Interested to see how this plays out - I feel like Ollama is synonymous with "local".
I view it a bit like I do cloud gaming, 90% of the time I'm fine with local use, but sometimes it's just more cost effective to offload the cost of hardware to someone else. But it's not an all-or-nothing decision.
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#205Called it. It's very unfortunate that the local inference community has aggregated around Ollama when it's clear that's not their long term priority or strategy. Its imperative we move away ASAP
Llama.cpp (library which ollama uses under the hoods) has its own server, and it is fully compatible with open-webui. I moved away from ollama in favor of llama-server a couple of months ago and never missed anything, since I'm still using the same UI.
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#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes everyone should just write cpp to call local LLMs obviously
Yes, but llama.cpp already comes with a ready-made OpenAI-compatible inference server.
llama.cpp isn't (just) a C++ library/codebase -- it's a CLI application, server application (llama-server), etc.
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#207More than one year in and Ollama still doesn't support Vulkan inference. Vulkan is essential for consumer hardware. Ollama is a failed project at this point: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42886680
Also realistically, Vulkan Compute support mostly helps iGPU's and older/lower-end dGPU's, which can only bring a modest performance speed up in the compute-bound preprocessing phase (because modern CPU inference wins in the text-generation phase due to better memory bandwidth). There are exceptions such as modern Intel dGPU's or perhaps Macs running Asahi where Vulkan Compute can be more broadly useful, but these are also quite rare.
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#208Man, busy day in the world of AI announcements! This looks coordinated with OpenAI, as it launches with `gpt-oss-20b` and `gpt-oss-120b`
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ollama is not run by Facebook. We are a small team building our dreams.
I thought it was a Meta company because the name is so close to Llama which is a Meta product. I looked up the Ollama trademark and was surprised to see it's a Canadian company.
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#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
true but ignores handing over all your prompt traffic without any real legal protections as sama has pointed out: [1] https://californiarecorder.com/sam-altman-requires-ai-privil...
> OpenAI confirmed it has been preserving deleted and non permanent person chat logs since mid-Might 2025 in response to a federal court docket order > The order, embedded under and issued on Might 13, 2025, by U.S. Justice of the Peace Decide Ona T. Wang Is this some meme where “may” is being replaced with “might”, or some word substitution gone awry? I don’t get it.