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Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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Say fuck on TV.

In addition to the sibling comment about safe harbor hours, the FCC regulates not speech but the shared airwaves. Print is irrelevant, and that’s why you can do whatever you want on cable. Also, the FCC does not directly set standards and instead responds to complaints from the communities in which the broadcast is available. So it’s conceivable that in an environment where nobody cared, you could do this at any time…

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Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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They should be allowing all lawful transactions, and if they can't, they should get broken up.

People keep saying this but I don’t see any reason any administration would do this. It is that type of argument that feels good to think about but has no legal basis.

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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I'm not sure why you're singling me out specifically when I'm trying to explain to you how the law works, but you speak like an entitled authoritarian nit. Luckily for the rest of us, your ignorant opinion doesn't supersede the US Constitution.

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Then your opinion is even less relevant, and even unwelcome. Keep your authoritarian bullshit to yourself.

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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> it's not like you can boycott Mastercard or VISA In many countries, if you pay locally, you absolutely can. China's UnionPay, India's UPI, PayNow in Singapore, PromptPay in Thailand, PayPal, Cash App, and more.

You need the government to cajole the market to create safe and free inter bank transfer programs. We're not going to do that in the USA -- no one's buddies would get their kickbacks!

Like FedNow that was launched in 2023? https://www.frbservices.org/news/fed360/issues/071625/fednow... https://www.frbservices.org/resources/fees/fednow-2025

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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> Valve's payment processors told Valve they would withdraw payment processing unless Valve banned specific categories of game from their online store Do we have a statement from Valve saying as much?

Click on the article link at the top of this page and find out. Let me quote the article for you: > In a statement provided to PC Gamer, Valve said that it had tried to work things out with Mastercard directly prior to removing the games, and suggested that Mastercard did have at least an indirect influence on the outcome. > "Mastercard did not communicate with Valve directly, despite our request to do so," a Valve r…

This text is also consistent with Valve making a determination, checking with payment processors and not being told no. (Versus the payment processors reaching out to Valve first.)

Like yes, there is a problem with Mastercard. But I want to know this isn’t Valve having complied with some activists trying to cover their tracks.

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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There's no meaningful attention, here. Until it is on the US Gov't radar, this 'attention' is just a collection of upset redditors furiously posting forum messages which will fissile out in a few months, at most. Besides, it's not like you can boycott Mastercard or VISA.

You can switch to Amex, but here in Argentina like half of the postnets don't recognize it. Also there are a few QR networks, some made by the banks like "Modo" and other no-a-bank ones like "MercadoPago" and a few minor ones. Even the guy/gal that sells hot bread on the street accept most of them.

> You can switch to Amex, but here in Argentina like half of the postnets don't recognize it.

To this point, it was even a punchline in The Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy.

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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I'm glad the Mastercard-Visa duopoly is finally getting some attention, these companies shouldn't be allowed to exercise the financial control they do. Payment infrastructure is not a free market - you can't just choose to pay via some other processor if they turn you down, they ARE the processors. Therefore, they should be under intense scrutiny when they refuse.

There's no meaningful attention, here. Until it is on the US Gov't radar, this 'attention' is just a collection of upset redditors furiously posting forum messages which will fissile out in a few months, at most. Besides, it's not like you can boycott Mastercard or VISA.

The EU should certainly look into this though. I don't always like what they do, but a conglomerate of many large markets (countries) means that these shitty fucking companies and scumbag executives get forced to sit up and listen.

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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What's stopping a large, profitable company like Valve from starting its own payment processor? Surely the technology part of it can't be an impossible hurdle.

The regulatory environment is absolutely insane. The things you'd need to do to interoperate are nightmarish, it's damn close to an impossible hurdle. (I work at a fintech company)

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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> it's not like you can boycott Mastercard or VISA In many countries, if you pay locally, you absolutely can. China's UnionPay, India's UPI, PayNow in Singapore, PromptPay in Thailand, PayPal, Cash App, and more.

The US also has Discover/Capital One and American Express and if you live in some of the nicer parts people still take checks.

Does that actually help? Because it would send a pretty strong message if the payment screen said, "sorry you can only buy this with amex/discover" (click here for why) but that doesn't seem to be how this plays out.

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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You need the government to cajole the market to create safe and free inter bank transfer programs. We're not going to do that in the USA -- no one's buddies would get their kickbacks!

Like FedNow that was launched in 2023? https://www.frbservices.org/news/fed360/issues/071625/fednow... https://www.frbservices.org/resources/fees/fednow-2025

Not even close the service offered by, as an example, Pix in Brazil.
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