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Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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Post by pjmlp »

trelane wrote: post #170
pjmlp wrote: post #135

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I know, there are dozens on Linux forums, every time I was searching for workarounds. Also it isn't as if I haven't subscribed to Linux Journal during its whole lifetime, or LWN, or even used to write M$ on email signatures and Usenet messages, for that matter. Signed someone that knows Linux since kernel 1.0.9, yet has better things to do than making it work.

This os why I only buy laptops that ship with Linux, with support you can call to get broken things fixed. Slapping Linux on a Windows box is a mug's game

You mean like I did in the past with Dell XPS, and Asus netbooks?

This kind of discussions are so repetitive.

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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Post by arend321 »

flyinghamster wrote: post #94
arend321 wrote: post #69

I'm waiting for Android Virtualization Framework to run a full Linux distro on my smartphone with portable monitor (glasses). Already using Termux but AVF is hopefully much more performant. Maybe the Samsung S26 Ultra will have full support. I might ditch my miniPC if this works out.

I've been playing with it[0] - it still has a few rough edges. It's rather slow to start up compared to firing up a VM in virt-manager, and when you shut it down you must wait for it to finish shutting down before trying to restart it. Woe to you if Debian pushes a systemd update. It took repeated incantations with apt to get that update to take, because updating systemd would crash the VM Every. Damn. Time. [0] The…

Thanks for sharing. I hope with Android 16 and Samsung implementing AVF for DeX these issues will be ironed out.

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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Post by MarcusE1W »

st3fan wrote: post #162
E39M5S62 wrote: post #41

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I run Linux on a Thinkpad T13s, with the previous generation of Snapdragon CPUs. It runs great - quick, excellent battery life and very stable. Installation is a bit obnoxious, but nothing a modestly seasoned Linux veteran can't handle.

When you say "excellent battery life" .. can you be more specific?

Not the original commentator. With Linux I think battery life is ok, but not more. I get about 8h out of it. My battery shows 92% capacity, so there might be a bit more in it.

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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Post by rcxdude »

pentamassiv wrote: post #50
pacifika wrote: post #45

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The first link does not mention blacklisting, just resolving a license compatibility issue.

"The patches check for the gxtp7380, ite_8291, ite_8291_lb, ite_8297, ite_829x, stk8321, tuxedo_compatibility_check, tuxedo_io, tuxedo_nb02_nvidia_power_ctrl, tuxedo_nb04_keyboard, tuxedo_nb04_wmi_ab, tuxedo_nb04_wmi_bs, tuxedo_nb04_sensors, tuxedo_nb04_power_profiles, tuxedo_nb04_kbd_backlight, tuxedo_nb05_keyboard, tuxedo_nb05_kbd_backlight, tuxedo_nb05_power_profiles, tuxedo_nb05_ec, tuxedo_nb05_sensors, tuxedo_nb…

It is, specifically because Tuxedo licensed their modules as GPLv3, instead of GPLv2 (the module license declaration only has 'GPL', to make this confusing), causing a mild license compatibility issue, and since they've had external contributions, it's not so easy for them to fix it. And it's not a ban, just a flag that gets set.

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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Post by rcxdude »

tom89999 wrote: post #111
simonjgreen wrote: post #28

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Respectfully, nothing about that applies to a laptop. This has been well proven over the years, that with good forethought and making parts available laptops can be highly repairable.

The display unit is nothing an enduser should replace. Does every user know how to handle the delicate display and how to carefully install the LVDS cable? In most modern cars you cant replace the windscreen with cameras, heating wires in your backyard without the calibration software. You can try it, but you will fail.

Take a look at the framework laptop for how accessible replacing parts on a laptop can be if you put even a little bit of effort into it. Most people are entirely capable of the manual dexterity, they just lack clear instructions, or things artificially require specialized equipment and software and more fiddly, difficult, and risky steps because it's either not a priority or it's actively a priority to discourage it.

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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Post by Neikius »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #193
dismalaf wrote: post #184

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The laptop 3050 card is the worst piece of computer hardware I've ever owned. Literally just heats up the laptop and still delivers shit performance. I've got an MSI laptop and I've settled on simply never using the Nvidia card (prime-select iGPU only). The integrated graphics have access to 16gb of ram (versus the Nvidia card's 4gb) and deliver better performance without the whole laptop hitting 100 degrees.

I have a Clevo-based laptop. Our experiences were similar. The nvidia dGPU offers terrible performance and doesn't do much besides heat up the laptop. I disabled mine via the firmware. The CPU reaches 90 degrees when given almost any sort of load. It quickly thermal throttles itself down to uselessness despite three loud fans. I often have to use systemd shells with CPU quotas to manage this. I hope the Asahi Linux p…

Interestingly enough my clevo (from tuxedo) does not have a gpu switch in firmware...

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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Post by txdv »

vinkelhake wrote: post #130
rr808 wrote: post #82

I'm waiting for this. I like low powered laptops as more of a terminal. I dont want the apple ecosystem, but I'm getting really tired of windows, high end chromebooks kinda disappeared, I have Linux servers at home. Do I have to wait much longer?

An alternative that is available right now is to get an M1/M2 MacBook Air and run Asahi Linux on it. The older models are pretty cheap, but still quite fast. There are some missing features, but it runs really well. I've been using it as my home driver for over a year and it's really solid.

I am so tempted. Is battery life good with Asahi?

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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Post by jijijijij »

tom89999 wrote: post #111
simonjgreen wrote: post #28

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Respectfully, nothing about that applies to a laptop. This has been well proven over the years, that with good forethought and making parts available laptops can be highly repairable.

The display unit is nothing an enduser should replace. Does every user know how to handle the delicate display and how to carefully install the LVDS cable? In most modern cars you cant replace the windscreen with cameras, heating wires in your backyard without the calibration software. You can try it, but you will fail.

Don’t be ridiculous. I replaced screens on (old) Thinkpads and a Framework and it’s literally a 5 min job, no experience needed. Both have excellent repair documentation. With Framework you can replace any component in that time frame. No, really. Some years ago, with Thinkpads you didn’t even have to disassemble the machine for many components… eg. you pressed a button and the lappy ejected the hard drive.

I know quite a few non-techies who replaced their phone screens themselves. That’s been unexpected and impressive to me. Honestly, you can get unlucky, but in my experience, electronic components are surprisingly resistant to abuse.

Sure, if everything is soldered or glued down it‘s intentionally hard to self-service, but that’s also down to your consumer choices. There is nothing inherently unserviceable.

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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Post by jijijijij »

microtonal wrote: post #116
theodric wrote: post #35

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230VAC mains electrical fittings are openly sold in DIY shops in every country in the European Union without mass-cookings occurring as a result. This reeks of utterly unearned elitism.

Yep. I think pretty much every youngster gets some basic education (besides getting years of physics in high-school): disarm the group/fuse, double check with a power tester, make sure you are not causing any shorts. I don't know anyone who calls an electrician for replacing a light fitting, a power outlet, or light switches. Besides that some European countries have required for decades that new houses/apartment hav…

Can’t say I got any particular education, but honestly knowing it’s quite dangerous kinda pushes you in the right direction, if you’re not super dim, too. And usually you can call a parent or someone who knows what’s up, to get the instructions or help the first time.

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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Post by javier2 »

wyldfire wrote: post #92
mariusor wrote: post #19

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Basically the same things happened to my tuxedo also. With the addition of having to change batteries once a year, because it would drop to half it's factory charge, which wasn't really sufficient. I also gave up on them when they wanted so much money for a screen change (which died after about 3-4 years). I've replaced it with the new framework 13 inch, which so far works well , but I've only had it for 4-5 months.…

> issues with suspend on linux Oh? I'd seriously considered buying the 13 w/this AMD CPU and I guess I naively thought it would be ideal. What sort of problems with suspend are you seeing?

If you use Ubuntu or something similar, it literally takes years for kernel fixes to trickle down. Its quite unfortunate
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